Big brother is watching
- 07-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Big brother is watching
I have been a member on AM for a while now, and I have read god knows how many logs/posts/threads for my own reasearch. I have noticed here lately that there have been a lot of threads started by "guys that are new to AM" who were just wondering if anyone had any good sources to get gear. they always ask for folks to PM the info. It struck me strange. I may be paranoid but I think the somebody is posing as a newb to try and get a member to hang himself. Not the DEA or anything but maybe some private anti steroid group. Anabolic to catch a predator or something. Something to think about.
- 07-05-2010, 04:21 PM
07-05-2010, 04:23 PM
07-05-2010, 04:36 PM
They been here forever, in fact there may be a DEA agent who has even become a prominent member, we wont know. Its a shame they will waste tax dollars to get on here instead of doing something like stopping heroin or cocaine from being used...nope, steroids are pure evil....
Every board has em. And about giving out your address, lol I am sure if they want it they can get it through IP. Still dont volunteer it.
Makes me hate their guts all the more, I hope they get hit by a massive turd dropped out of a passing airplane...
It is a DEA agents job to become your buddy, gain your trust, build a friendship that you value, then slit your throat and put you in jail....
Yeah nice way to maintain a moral police force for something and be the "good" guys. Overpaid useless piece of crap working for BigPharma is more like it, in the roundabout way thats pretty much it.
My slightly Biased-personal view
Big Pharma pays FDA to ban said Item, using FDA standards Federal laws are enforced through DEA.
The only good thing your average person who uses has going for them is the cost ratio it runs to bust someone for buying a couple vials of test in no way is productive nor negates the use of steroids, and then the punishment for a first time bust on someone is so minuscule over steroids its almost pointless....I mean...serious. But if your a dealer, your FUBAR if busted.
Either way there is nothing illegal in my house so, meh doesnt bother me.
07-05-2010, 04:41 PM
07-05-2010, 05:40 PM
07-06-2010, 12:54 AM
07-06-2010, 08:32 AM
Heh..Ive started a conspiracy theory. I have much less hostile views on the DEA. On the field agents anyway. Their job is to go and make cases on people. Their personal views or morals have little to do with it. And fortunately (or unfortunately if you are a dealer) they are pretty good. They have to make a paycheck just like everybody else. The problem is with the drug companies. the buck ultimately stops with them to decide what is "safe" for the public. Of course its not profitable for some small private company (C.E.L. is a good example) to succeed because they make a decent product that people want. Then when enough money changes hands in legislature, laws are made. Often times that law benefits whoever has the most to lose, namely the drug companies. After some been counters and pencil pushers make the law, agencies like the DEA have no choice but to enforce it. Either that or find another way to feed their family.
07-06-2010, 09:02 AM
07-06-2010, 10:12 AM
Thread saved and forwarded...
-RecoverBro Zombie Specialist and Paracord Wrangler
-Independent due to lies that hurt my family. Loyal to myself and my Bro's.
07-06-2010, 10:40 AM
A good way to be anonymous on the internet is to use a secure VPN for internet and then your ip address is not traced back to you. I use giganews for newsgroup downloads and they have a service called vyprvpn that gives you a anonymous ip to use that cant be tracked and your activity online is safe...its expensive but worth it in my opinion. Also if you have incriminating data on your harddrive i suggest everyone to learn to use trucrypt encryption. LE cannot cracked some of the highest levels of encryption and there are ways to have hidden drives that are undetectable.
07-07-2010, 03:53 PM
No need to be paranoid......Like a member said, "They have always been watching." The juice world isn't as secretive as many of you would lead others to believe. A simple, public search on the web will yield hundreds of sources from which to purchase LEGIT juice. It's a pretty simple task. The only headache involved is weeding out the fakes that will most certainly surface during your search. I realize we can't name names or identify sources here, but you can contact the juice manufacturers directly and inquire as to who their authorized dealers are.......They will be happy to tell you!
Btw, the FEDS don't have time to waste on chicken ****....They go after the BIG DAWGS (big time dealers)! A federal conviction requires a significant amount of the contraband! And, juice isn't illegal in most countries so they certainly aren't (can't) go after manufacturers who sell what is LEGAL in their jurisdictions. It's on the buyer (you) to obey the laws in YOUR country. But, if you think Special Agent Do-Right is going to knock on your door and inquire about the 10ml vial of Test you purchased from some European pharmacy, take a deep breath, grab a beer and relax......Aint gonna happen!!!!!
07-09-2010, 11:01 AM
they have always been watching. they r everywhere. instead of actually fixing real problems in this country they are concentrating on this ****....o they r on facebook also. if u get a friend request from somebody u dont know and they have like a few friends, odds are it is a some form of government agent.
07-09-2010, 01:45 PM
07-10-2010, 12:36 PM
I figure half the people forced to enforce it honestly dont care and would rather go after people selling meth and actually ruining peoples lives.
Steroids are more and more becoming accepted.by people. I disapprove of its use in sports myself, but only those lacking a real competitive spirit will use em and they will use em anyways, the rest just want that boost and experience and the benefit of using.
07-10-2010, 01:33 PM
07-10-2010, 01:55 PM
Young men and women of the faith often suffer from the need to be "physically" perfect to attract their partner. Hence why I believe most common Christian marriages stand a less or equal the chance of success than secular ones, and yet a marriage between two mature Christians is almost unbreakable by any means.
Same applies to drinking in the faith. A glass of wine ever couple days is in no way getting drunk and is healthy. Yet some will crucify you for it, others accept it. I hate politics in the church, honestly I do. Go there for God, unless someone is blatantly in sin and it is consuming them, their family, or even the church(which happened recently to mine thanks to a pastor who has fallen...)
So steroids...if they are using it for personal reasons, using it safely, and its not an addiction I see it as between them and God. Maybe its for vanity? Maybe its for goals? Is every bodybuilder going to hell out of narcissism? Is every weightlifter who wants a 250, or 300, or 350 bench and uses juice to hit it going to hell? There are Christians who do these things as a lifestyle.
I duno, I may ask myself that question one day if I finally come to the point where I do something. I will seek God myself, and honestly I think he would prefer me staying natural. But the question is, out of the weakness of temptation of the flesh, will he tolerate? Honestly thats what it comes down to, what does he tolerate, because we all fall short of the Glory of God. Its just somethings have far more of a spiritual effect than others do.
The reason we even have divorcement is out of the hardness of our hearts, the reason we used to be able to stone a hoe as well. lol
I claim not to know all about this, and I have stood on harsh opinions and extremist views many times, that I later decided are not really what I feel at heart and disregard. Maybe I am getting old, I dont know.
Steroids dont fall into the obvious and spiritually insulting group of sins to me, thats all I know and feel. Neither does moderate drinking(not-drunk), or bodybuilding.
07-10-2010, 02:05 PM
07-10-2010, 02:46 PM
I dont think its ok at all to live outside his way, yet I also dont consider using steroids being outside of his way, or the families I know who drink lightly with their dinner(in no way becoming drunkards).
Self lust is always bad. Why do I love the gym? Do I enjoy looking in the mirror and seeing new striations, being bigger, knowing I am stronger, faster? I do enjoy that, but becoming a personal trainer and so on I am making it my life, and the state of my body is also a selling point of my knowledge.
I will say one of the reasons I think I developed tendinitus in both my legs was because I was becoming too vain over my physical accomplishments, and I honestly felt God "alleviated" the source of vainess by knocking me down pretty literally.
Look at the overly simplified view of it...
Supplements then fall into the same field. Steroids are a form of supplementation...on steroids....(pun, get it haha ). Just to the extremes that it crosses hormonal boundaries. Now this would make a test booster also lightly included, as well as something that burns fat so you can get that more "sexxy" look.
The entire field of supplementation exists for the purpose of people reaching their physical goals(some is honestly just healthy such as a multi, fish oil, etc). Steroids are just demonized, when in reality they are merely the kings of an empire that exists within our fitness world. Riskier, harsher, yes...
Now at the same time are christians to be fat and lazy? Or are they allowed to reach their potential that God gave them a drive to reach in the first place? I cant not lift, and cant not grow. Its honestly a big part of my life, and one of my forms of "therapy" for myself.
Literal argument: No where in the Bible did it say "Thou shalt not juice and get hyuuuge"
Serious Argument: It is said you should take care of your temple, and obey the laws of the land unless they contradict the laws of God
Argument of contemplation: I know its not a directly forbidden act, but why am I desiring to do it? Are the motives any of the the deadly sins, or are they something less harmful and just natural?
Extremist argument: Using steroids is immoral, illegal, and wrong. Your gona burn in hell!
I bet you could walk into ANY church, and get a form of those 4 arguments...and more. Now who is right? Who is so close to God that their word is dominant?
No one, while God may speak through others and inspire them, and may even use another to bring conviction upon you, it is ultimately you he will be dealing with and him who you will be dealing with.
It is my current belief that while its not the best thing to do while seeking a growing relationship with God, I also dont think its going to utterly destroy you. The truth is, we should always seek to be our best, but the truth is also that we never will be perfect.
07-10-2010, 11:15 PM
I'm sorry, man, but I feel as if you are perverting the Word to suit your own. But hey, it's your life to live, enjoy the ride.
07-10-2010, 11:17 PM
07-10-2010, 11:18 PM
I am simply trying not to judge something I have not felt personal conviction over. You show me the Christian who has everything 100% right, and I will show you the anti-christ because the only man who got it 100% right was Christ.
07-11-2010, 10:35 AM
It's all good, Zero. We all have an opinion, so it's always cool to hear someone elses'.
On the subject liner, this picture sums it up:
07-14-2010, 10:39 PM
Yup. I know I am new, so for all you guys know I could be "big brother". But I'll just say this, I'm so pissed of hearing all the anti steroid and anti performance enhancing crap. How many more deaths, diseases, and accidents are cause by alcohol. What about cigarettes. Hell, there are ridiculous side affects and more issues caused with OTC medicines and RXs. It's just frustrating for some one who trains consistent, eats clean, respects their body, and does hours upon hours of research on how to safely and effectively use AS, but can't trust any place for fear that they are one of a million scammers, or selling poison in a bottle. They govt should make this stuff legal and tax it so as to avoid people hurting themselves using UG crap that causes way more issues that legit AS ever would. I don't know how to gain the trust/respect of people on here, but I would really like to know if I could verify some of the sites I've found, or get a source at some point down the line. Any advice for an experienced PH user with many years of lifting under my belt that would like to make the jump to AS.
07-14-2010, 11:49 PM
I am a good citizen, I pay my taxes. Yeah I hate the government, but thats standard today. I dont hurt anyone, try to help as many as I can, attend church every time I can, do whats right, hold a job, obey the laws, am actually intelligent, etc,etc,etc. But if I get caught using steroids, NONE of that matters, its time to be threatened with fines and possibly even jail time...
So a man is wicked because he uses steroids?
Then why the hell is it illegal?
When birth control pills(yaz) are ruining lives, most prescriptions have a % of users who WILL die from it(its all a math game), etc,etc,etc...
07-15-2010, 12:39 AM
This is obsurd to me and i'm not even religious but know PLENTY about a few.
Your attitude and views after seeing your morals and views do not mix and would ofend any christian/catholic. I'm guessing that's what you are since someone mentioned it before and you never answered me on what your stand is.
07-15-2010, 12:41 AM
"they" dont want us bigger, faster and in shape.
the want us fat, out of shape and unhealthy.
In reality, if we are not consuming something, spending money or getting sick(spending money) we are a liablity to this global military industrial complex.
07-15-2010, 01:15 AM
Hello just checking in... Hope everyone is sticking to protein and creatin. Now everyone behave themselves by the way pm me if you need a source. Remember I am always watching...
07-15-2010, 03:04 PM
07-15-2010, 05:03 PM
My church knows my study of choice personally(outside real school) is Anabolic Pharmacology, even the nurse there knows this. As well as my opinions on it. They dont mind, and I have never been shunned. I know steroid users from multiple churchs(big and small) and they can actually talk pretty openly. We are talking in churchs that have from 50 peeps average to 500 peeps average....you just simply dont know how common this subject is now.
That and you seem to have been so easily fooled into the "demonization" of it, seems big bro did a good job on ya.
My joke nickname has been "The BloodyScientific" in the church, I have a very science based knowledge and often would prefer a bloody end to many scenarios where I perceive wickedness or corruption to be involved. You my friend would be surprised by alot, many Christians are not pushovers anymore. Many of them know the time when the church may have to fight literally for the lives of its members could come in our later lifetime. The church I was just in Thursday, one of the people of the ministry believes in guns and was packing a pistol under his shirt since he had a CC permit, a guy about my age. Another gentleman spoke to me about cycles, and we explained the truth about steroids to a couple girls that came up to us. Read the old testament sometime, where death and blood shed was common....
Shunned? not by any means. Shunning would mean judging. Alcoholism and smoking would be more harshly argued against than some roids. Especially since they see these guys use, then be perfectly fine if not better off afterwards...Using steroids simply has not shown "evil" to anyone or created a sense of "wrongness". Its more of a science most admit they dont understand.
And with this knowledge of who I am, what I believe, and how I act I have been offered spots as a youth leader over 75 kids, been welcomed in churchs, offered to have my spot paid for for missionary trips. You sir, simply have not been in a church long enough to realize its not an organization of judgmental people, its a family. Black sheep accepted as well.
BTW its Vain, not vein.
And above all, I am very happy and proud of the fact I am always trusted. Why? Because I am transparent, hide no dark ends to my means, and pretty much will bend over backwards for anyone in need. Simply because I believe the use of a steroid is not a horrible thing should disqualify me? When more and more people are accepting it, even normal people its just not as "scary" as it was now that truths come out.
The only issue I would see with it is being a good steward of your money, and that is justifying a cycle for 250 bucks, instead of putting it towards something important. Trust me no church keeps me for my money, I am poor. One of the many reasons(health included) I have never ran a cycle yet. Then again many Christians rushed out to pick up a 600$ iphone when it came out, so I dont worry much about it...
I am a Christian, Pentecostal in fact. Which means seeing a mans busted knee heal instantly, or cancer vanish, and the likes are common place. Call religion as you wish, but what happens, happens. How I would take advantage of a church I dont know, I usually give more to a church than I received though I have been blessed a few times by members in times of need. They are my family outside my family. And as me using it to make my life meaningful...trust my my friend, if it was not for Gods laws I would have a good deal of meaning to my life, I simply restrict that meaning now to being just where as before without teaching it would have just been harsh...
Never been one to believe an alien ship flew by, a lil green dude busted a nut in the primordial soup, and over billions of years we evolved from retarded fish frogs into monkeys into humans....yeah....
Your image of Christians is absurdly stiff, more like catholics. Just without the butt raping of lil boys.
You seem confused that I am....a human
I think I lost a lil respect for your intelligence after that post...Usually I am the one making wide encompassing comments that borderline extreme views, wtf gtfo out of my spot.
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