Brian Cushing tested positive in September!!!
- 05-10-2010, 12:03 PM
Brian Cushing tested positive in September!!!
Just came out on PFT, he supposedly tested positive in September but for some reason was allowed to play and had a probowl/Def. rookie of the year season. So now he will serve a 4 game suspension. Tried to appeal and got denied. Hmmm shady business if he tested positive and was allowed to play...
- 05-10-2010, 12:05 PM
i just read someone from his high school say that he went from 170 soaking wet freshman year of HS to almost 220 after that summer. I guess that might explain that puffy lookin gyno hes sporting in the 1st pic from freshman year in college.
- 05-10-2010, 12:09 PM
espn radio said today he didn't test positive for steroids though, they said they didn't know what exactly it was, it could have been a masking agent he tested positive for but it wasn't exactly steroids, but i've also heard ppl say theres been rumors around this kid and steroids since high school, i wonder what it was that he took
05-10-2010, 12:16 PM
That is one nasty case of puff-breast. I suppose he didn't do his research prior to obtaining the hormonal products that he took. Dumbass.
05-10-2010, 12:16 PM
well yea im sure he was being helped by DeFranco or someone else to mask it but the cats is still out of the bag.
05-10-2010, 12:47 PM
is this a shock to anyone? I seriously doubt that many athletes havent at least tried performance enhancers at least once in their career. Their careers are about performing abnormally well and im surprised there arent more positive tests coming up cause im sure thres a ton of guys using stuff. I think it would be pretty hard to believe that there are few guys using stuff to help them perform. Or that for any matter any sport is "clean".
Personally i think athletes should be allowed to use whatever they want, if they dont mind the risks involved and elite performance is the goal, i dont see any reason why those who are willing to risk their own health to perform better should be punished. What seperates the normal guys from the great athletes is what you are willing to do to win (for the most part), and if ur willing to risk ur life, so be it you should be allowed to do so.
05-10-2010, 12:53 PM
05-10-2010, 12:54 PM
05-10-2010, 12:58 PM
an explanation rather than negs would actually make for a more intelligent conversation. Unless u are god and therefore ur opinion is right and inherently everythign that differs from u is wrong
05-10-2010, 01:10 PM
1) diffrences in training facilities can cause unfair advantages so lets get those out of sports.
2) supplements can potential cause increase performance alright lets get those out of sports too.
3) Better coaches, strength coaches, physical therapists, mental trainers, etc could also cause an unfair advantage lets get that out of sports.
4) being paid more money so to be able to afford nicer equiptment, better quality food and a higher quality of life could be an advantage. So lets just not pay athletes.
5) one man may be really tall and prove to be an advantage, so lets make height and weight restrictions to level the playing field.
6) Having a crowd support a team could cause an increase in moral so lets make sure the crowds stay quiet to ensure equal play.. thats awesome..
Where do u ****nig draw the line? I mean so many different factors could be seen as unfair advantages that its absolutely rediculous to start naming which is allowed and which isnt.
If u dont think athletes already give everything they have to performing well at their sport i just have no idea what to say to you, you are clearly retarded if thats what you think. And if you think steroids should be banned from sports good on u thats ur opinion, why ban them if probably every athlete would be willing to take them? i mean its not like we want to see fat peices of **** that cant perform run across fields right? No, everyone wants to see elite perfomance and this is just one more way of allowing an athlete to compete at the highest level possible.
05-10-2010, 02:27 PM
well thats not whats at question here. if you allow steroid use then it would make it extremely difficult for a clean guy to compete. very fast recovery, increased strength, faster healing, higher testosterone...a clean guy wouldnt stand a chance. for example, MMA fighters often speak out against it because they work so hard to prepare for a fight while their opponent is juicing and training twice as often, with faster results.
we dont want locker rooms to turn into steroid labs. if you allow people to juice it would not only require EVERYONE to do it in order to compete, it would also jeopardize many people's health because they would be saucing like maniacs. while right now you have NFL players that maybe did cycles in high school and buy HGH right now to heal their injuries, if the $hit was legal they would be shooting Ronnie Coleman size stacks and it would no longer be about whos more talented but rather who can jack themselves up more artificially.
05-10-2010, 02:31 PM
and by the way not every athlete wants to take them or would take them if offered. not everyone is willing to exchange money for health. the point of them being illegal is so you can play sports and compete without risking damage to your liver, bacne, ED, kidney shutdown whatever else juice heads have to deal with.
by the way in other sports like MMA there is a drug test every single time you fight, not randomly like NFL. less opportunities for people to juice, less things we need to worry about.
05-10-2010, 03:01 PM
Nice tits Cushing, haha.
I'll tell ya, there is more dirty players than clean in football, all the way down to Div. III. It's everywhere. Not news or a shock.
05-10-2010, 03:11 PM
05-10-2010, 05:26 PM
I think we should keep sports clean, while at the same time you cant blame the athletes who do use for keeping up with the pressure. Quite honestly, for some guys its not an advantage, its leveling the playing field. Not everyone is gifted with great genetics.
As long as its suspensions and the likes, no real jail issues I find it to keep a balance. Now that being said, I believe steroids should be "grey products" instead of black market(real AAS). Done through clinics, which require pretests and screenings, it could generate alot of $$$ and hell we can direct it to the school systems that are failing nationwide -.-
Age cap it, require them to take an 8 week course, and require them to visit a doctor there, and otherwise offer them some of the better things that have been produced through pharmacology based breakthroughs.
People WILL use, till humans no longer exist. The problem is, do you really think Joe who works at such and such bank, is a real nice guy, always on time, does his job good, doesnt break the law...should face such harsh penalties for steroids? For personal use?
That is my only beef. I say mark it on their drivers license, and let them be. When I get on, I am giving my father a full set of print out information on anything I am putting in my body for him to both understand, and have in case of emergencies. I rather him inform a doctor why I am in the hospital but unresponsive, than to die....but many will choose death over fear of really harsh and unrealistic jail penalties.
This needs to change.
05-10-2010, 05:58 PM
And NO, I am the opposite of GOD. I am human, a flawed specimen that will always do things the CLEAN way because nowadays, itís taboo.
05-10-2010, 06:01 PM
05-10-2010, 06:18 PM
This thread is about Brain Cushing at his 14yr old school girl tits. But, people always have to turn it in to a political or ideology. Stop looking so far and deep into things we have no control over.
Tits Tits Tits, look at Cushing's Tits!!!
Dude is jacked I must say!!!
05-10-2010, 08:46 PM
In this situation I am saying, since it is an option, and dealing with an extra hazard towards human health, that it may be better if we are meeting in the middle as it is the only feasible way to achieve safety and happiness for a legalized version of steroid use. I dont agree with Obamacare, but this "clinic" is in my mind would be like a more high tech/medical version of your state liqueur/tobacco store. It is not mandatory to take steroids at any point, thus it is an option. It will also remove the UG lab scene and the risks involved. Having an in state(I am sure only a couple clinics a state in major cities would really work) clinic with all the medical supplies(needles, syringes,etc) as well as bloodwork options, and physicians who are like us who love this field and specialize in it and know their crap can watch out in case things go wrong.
They could even offer surgery for Gyno, TRT for people who dont want to use "roids" but have low test and want a life back, PCT for users and so on. This would go about eliminating the legal issues. Now UG labs will always exist because some things even a legal lab would not allow(Think Cheque Drops, or M1T for toxicity reasons). Just for the extra "special" substances. But hell at least having a single vial that is worth 5 weeks of a cycle wont net you 10 years in prison...
I understand that we need to avoid putting the government in control of our lives(Though I think we need more firing squad executions performed by the state on rapists/murderers ). But this would be a "personal choice" that could actually become legalized by accepting terms and conditions.
Obviously not the perfect solution, but we are human. Therefore we will not know perfection on this plane, but we can only find a balanced solution.
05-10-2010, 09:14 PM
I am never surprised when football players get caught - given the strength and recovery demands of the sport.
I have always wondered if and who in the NBA has juiced.
05-10-2010, 10:11 PM
05-11-2010, 03:04 AM
the fact of the matter still stands that while steroids do provide an upper hand in athletics, i am not saying they dont, however there are multiple other things that going into making a professional athelte as well as the differences that i mentioned previously. I mean its not like u can get a bottle of testosterone throw on a baseball jersey and go out and bash home runs all day. Yes the steroids make training more efficient but u still have to train, u still have to diet, u still have to do everything to be that elite athlete. And i dont think you would ever see anyone ronnie colemans size that guy gets winded walking acrossed a stage.
There are edges people have over one another weather its training, coaching, money etc etc. If an athlete chooses to use a drug to help improve his performance and realistically put food on the table and a roof over his families head i dont have a problem. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION and i know its flawed however its not like these performance enhancers arent going to go away. They are going to be a part of sports weather u like it or not, thats just life, people will always try to gain an edge over the competition sometimes with little regaurd for their health or moral standing.
05-11-2010, 03:07 AM
05-11-2010, 03:17 AM
And its good u do things the clean way there is nothing wrong with that at all, however you do not rely on your athletic performance to provide for your family.
I mean realistically if i asked you, "would you take a drug with the known and unknow side effects of steroids to keep your job and provide for your family" would you do it? I dont think there would be too many people to say no to that.
05-11-2010, 08:06 AM
05-11-2010, 09:53 AM
Now can we please focus on Cushings tits???!?!
05-11-2010, 11:26 AM
05-11-2010, 12:11 PM
they said hCG levels are elevated shortly after ejaculation, so Cush might be trying that defense...LOL
i just read Defranco's website where he is ranting and raving about how Cushing is all natural this and that, at the time of the combine when those rumors emerged. I guess without sauce he would have never made it to this level
05-11-2010, 12:35 PM
05-11-2010, 12:46 PM
i cant wait to see the signs people bring to the games!
05-11-2010, 12:55 PM
anyone who has coached in NJ (like me) knows all about Cushing and the program he came from. His issues go much further back than his rookie year
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05-12-2010, 05:45 PM
so they revoted and he got the Def Rookie of the Year again...bull$hit.
check this out, from PFT, one NFL GM said they knew he was saucing in high school and def didnt wanna take a chance. also a quote from a former USC teammate about how Cush got bigger and bigger from goin back to Jersey.
05-12-2010, 06:59 PM
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05-12-2010, 11:08 PM
The only other problem I have with this is Cushing tested positive in sept. he didnt file an appeal til febuary, what happen in that time period why wasnt he suspended, last season
05-12-2010, 11:26 PM
Gene Therapy is the future my friends. I predict by 2020 the genetic playing field will be level, hormone therapy will be a thing of the past.
05-12-2010, 11:29 PM
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