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    Brian Cushing tested positive in September!!!


    Just came out on PFT, he supposedly tested positive in September but for some reason was allowed to play and had a probowl/Def. rookie of the year season. So now he will serve a 4 game suspension. Tried to appeal and got denied. Hmmm shady business if he tested positive and was allowed to play...



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    i just read someone from his high school say that he went from 170 soaking wet freshman year of HS to almost 220 after that summer. I guess that might explain that puffy lookin gyno hes sporting in the 1st pic from freshman year in college.
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    espn radio said today he didn't test positive for steroids though, they said they didn't know what exactly it was, it could have been a masking agent he tested positive for but it wasn't exactly steroids, but i've also heard ppl say theres been rumors around this kid and steroids since high school, i wonder what it was that he took
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    That is one nasty case of puff-breast. I suppose he didn't do his research prior to obtaining the hormonal products that he took. Dumbass.
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    well yea im sure he was being helped by DeFranco or someone else to mask it but the cats is still out of the bag.
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    is this a shock to anyone? I seriously doubt that many athletes havent at least tried performance enhancers at least once in their career. Their careers are about performing abnormally well and im surprised there arent more positive tests coming up cause im sure thres a ton of guys using stuff. I think it would be pretty hard to believe that there are few guys using stuff to help them perform. Or that for any matter any sport is "clean".

    Personally i think athletes should be allowed to use whatever they want, if they dont mind the risks involved and elite performance is the goal, i dont see any reason why those who are willing to risk their own health to perform better should be punished. What seperates the normal guys from the great athletes is what you are willing to do to win (for the most part), and if ur willing to risk ur life, so be it you should be allowed to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post

    Personally i think athletes should be allowed to use whatever they want, if they dont mind the risks involved and elite performance is the goal, i dont see any reason why those who are willing to risk their own health to perform better should be punished. What seperates the normal guys from the great athletes is what you are willing to do to win (for the most part), and if ur willing to risk ur life, so be it you should be allowed to do so.
    Wow. Your logic is out-the-window and completely ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Wow. Your logic is out-the-window and completely ignorant.
    and how is that?
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    an explanation rather than negs would actually make for a more intelligent conversation. Unless u are god and therefore ur opinion is right and inherently everythign that differs from u is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Wow. Your logic is out-the-window and completely ignorant.
    Lets see.....
    1) diffrences in training facilities can cause unfair advantages so lets get those out of sports.

    2) supplements can potential cause increase performance alright lets get those out of sports too.

    3) Better coaches, strength coaches, physical therapists, mental trainers, etc could also cause an unfair advantage lets get that out of sports.

    4) being paid more money so to be able to afford nicer equiptment, better quality food and a higher quality of life could be an advantage. So lets just not pay athletes.

    5) one man may be really tall and prove to be an advantage, so lets make height and weight restrictions to level the playing field.

    6) Having a crowd support a team could cause an increase in moral so lets make sure the crowds stay quiet to ensure equal play.. thats awesome..


    Where do u ****nig draw the line? I mean so many different factors could be seen as unfair advantages that its absolutely rediculous to start naming which is allowed and which isnt.

    If u dont think athletes already give everything they have to performing well at their sport i just have no idea what to say to you, you are clearly retarded if thats what you think. And if you think steroids should be banned from sports good on u thats ur opinion, why ban them if probably every athlete would be willing to take them? i mean its not like we want to see fat peices of **** that cant perform run across fields right? No, everyone wants to see elite perfomance and this is just one more way of allowing an athlete to compete at the highest level possible.
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    well thats not whats at question here. if you allow steroid use then it would make it extremely difficult for a clean guy to compete. very fast recovery, increased strength, faster healing, higher testosterone...a clean guy wouldnt stand a chance. for example, MMA fighters often speak out against it because they work so hard to prepare for a fight while their opponent is juicing and training twice as often, with faster results.

    we dont want locker rooms to turn into steroid labs. if you allow people to juice it would not only require EVERYONE to do it in order to compete, it would also jeopardize many people's health because they would be saucing like maniacs. while right now you have NFL players that maybe did cycles in high school and buy HGH right now to heal their injuries, if the $hit was legal they would be shooting Ronnie Coleman size stacks and it would no longer be about whos more talented but rather who can jack themselves up more artificially.
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    and by the way not every athlete wants to take them or would take them if offered. not everyone is willing to exchange money for health. the point of them being illegal is so you can play sports and compete without risking damage to your liver, bacne, ED, kidney shutdown whatever else juice heads have to deal with.

    by the way in other sports like MMA there is a drug test every single time you fight, not randomly like NFL. less opportunities for people to juice, less things we need to worry about.
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    Nice tits Cushing, haha.
    I'll tell ya, there is more dirty players than clean in football, all the way down to Div. III. It's everywhere. Not news or a shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveWire224 View Post
    Nice tits Cushing, haha.
    I'll tell ya, there is more dirty players than clean in football, all the way down to Div. III. It's everywhere. Not news or a shock.
    lol on girls they call them mosquito bites, not much to brag about
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    I think we should keep sports clean, while at the same time you cant blame the athletes who do use for keeping up with the pressure. Quite honestly, for some guys its not an advantage, its leveling the playing field. Not everyone is gifted with great genetics.

    As long as its suspensions and the likes, no real jail issues I find it to keep a balance. Now that being said, I believe steroids should be "grey products" instead of black market(real AAS). Done through clinics, which require pretests and screenings, it could generate alot of $$$ and hell we can direct it to the school systems that are failing nationwide -.-

    Age cap it, require them to take an 8 week course, and require them to visit a doctor there, and otherwise offer them some of the better things that have been produced through pharmacology based breakthroughs.

    People WILL use, till humans no longer exist. The problem is, do you really think Joe who works at such and such bank, is a real nice guy, always on time, does his job good, doesnt break the law...should face such harsh penalties for steroids? For personal use?

    That is my only beef. I say mark it on their drivers license, and let them be. When I get on, I am giving my father a full set of print out information on anything I am putting in my body for him to both understand, and have in case of emergencies. I rather him inform a doctor why I am in the hospital but unresponsive, than to die....but many will choose death over fear of really harsh and unrealistic jail penalties.

    This needs to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    an explanation rather than negs would actually make for a more intelligent conversation. Unless u are god and therefore ur opinion is right and inherently everythign that differs from u is wrong
    All because people put athletes on a higher level than the rest of us, does not exclude them from doing things the right way. What is the right way? Train clean, eat clean, and live clean... if they cannot perform to superstar status, then they are NOT a superstar. Itís a weak thread that is embedded in them at an early age that says to do anything possible to be better. Thatís narcissism, plan as day.

    And NO, I am the opposite of GOD. I am human, a flawed specimen that will always do things the CLEAN way because nowadays, itís taboo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I think we should keep sports clean, while at the same time you cant blame the athletes who do use for keeping up with the pressure. Quite honestly, for some guys its not an advantage, its leveling the playing field. Not everyone is gifted with great genetics.

    As long as its suspensions and the likes, no real jail issues I find it to keep a balance. Now that being said, I believe steroids should be "grey products" instead of black market(real AAS). Done through clinics, which require pretests and screenings, it could generate alot of $$$ and hell we can direct it to the school systems that are failing nationwide -.-

    Age cap it, require them to take an 8 week course, and require them to visit a doctor there, and otherwise offer them some of the better things that have been produced through pharmacology based breakthroughs.

    People WILL use, till humans no longer exist. The problem is, do you really think Joe who works at such and such bank, is a real nice guy, always on time, does his job good, doesnt break the law...should face such harsh penalties for steroids? For personal use?

    That is my only beef. I say mark it on their drivers license, and let them be. When I get on, I am giving my father a full set of print out information on anything I am putting in my body for him to both understand, and have in case of emergencies. I rather him inform a doctor why I am in the hospital but unresponsive, than to die....but many will choose death over fear of really harsh and unrealistic jail penalties.

    This needs to change.
    Your opinion has weight; however, the argument in which you make is the same that everyone in America is complaining about now - FORCED medical evaluation and conceptual Socialism by mandating caps. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    All because people put athletes on a higher level than the rest of us, does not exclude them from doing things the right way. What is the right way? Train clean, eat clean, and live clean... if they cannot perform to superstar status, then they are NOT a superstar. Itís a weak thread that is embedded in them at an early age that says to do anything possible to be better. Thatís narcissism, plan as day.

    And NO, I am the opposite of GOD. I am human, a flawed specimen that will always do things the CLEAN way because nowadays, itís taboo.
    In a "PERFECT" world this may be true but, this "PERFECT" world does not exist. Unfortunately, "by all means necessary" attitude exists in all aspects of life. Wheather it be sports or business. There are people who live by the laws of our country and those who do not. This will never change so, deal with it people.

    This thread is about Brain Cushing at his 14yr old school girl tits. But, people always have to turn it in to a political or ideology. Stop looking so far and deep into things we have no control over.

    Tits Tits Tits, look at Cushing's Tits!!!

    Dude is jacked I must say!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Your opinion has weight; however, the argument in which you make is the same that everyone in America is complaining about now - FORCED medical evaluation and conceptual Socialism by mandating caps. Just a thought.
    I understand, now i dont agree with mandatory mass insurance/medical coverage.

    In this situation I am saying, since it is an option, and dealing with an extra hazard towards human health, that it may be better if we are meeting in the middle as it is the only feasible way to achieve safety and happiness for a legalized version of steroid use. I dont agree with Obamacare, but this "clinic" is in my mind would be like a more high tech/medical version of your state liqueur/tobacco store. It is not mandatory to take steroids at any point, thus it is an option. It will also remove the UG lab scene and the risks involved. Having an in state(I am sure only a couple clinics a state in major cities would really work) clinic with all the medical supplies(needles, syringes,etc) as well as bloodwork options, and physicians who are like us who love this field and specialize in it and know their crap can watch out in case things go wrong.

    They could even offer surgery for Gyno, TRT for people who dont want to use "roids" but have low test and want a life back, PCT for users and so on. This would go about eliminating the legal issues. Now UG labs will always exist because some things even a legal lab would not allow(Think Cheque Drops, or M1T for toxicity reasons). Just for the extra "special" substances. But hell at least having a single vial that is worth 5 weeks of a cycle wont net you 10 years in prison...

    I understand that we need to avoid putting the government in control of our lives(Though I think we need more firing squad executions performed by the state on rapists/murderers ). But this would be a "personal choice" that could actually become legalized by accepting terms and conditions.

    Obviously not the perfect solution, but we are human. Therefore we will not know perfection on this plane, but we can only find a balanced solution.
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    I am never surprised when football players get caught - given the strength and recovery demands of the sport.

    I have always wondered if and who in the NBA has juiced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacradocious View Post
    I am never surprised when football players get caught - given the strength and recovery demands of the sport.

    I have always wondered if and who in the NBA has juiced.
    rashard lewis tested positive for DHEA at the end of last year and was suspended, but basketball doesn't seem like steroids would benefit them as much as other sports, look at the best of all time, michael, kobe, magic, bird...all relatively thin builds, being big and bulky wouldn't benefit much unless your a center, then i can see it or you can be jacked if your an amazing athlete like lebron, but he's an athlete you see once in your lifetime
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    the fact of the matter still stands that while steroids do provide an upper hand in athletics, i am not saying they dont, however there are multiple other things that going into making a professional athelte as well as the differences that i mentioned previously. I mean its not like u can get a bottle of testosterone throw on a baseball jersey and go out and bash home runs all day. Yes the steroids make training more efficient but u still have to train, u still have to diet, u still have to do everything to be that elite athlete. And i dont think you would ever see anyone ronnie colemans size that guy gets winded walking acrossed a stage.

    There are edges people have over one another weather its training, coaching, money etc etc. If an athlete chooses to use a drug to help improve his performance and realistically put food on the table and a roof over his families head i dont have a problem. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION and i know its flawed however its not like these performance enhancers arent going to go away. They are going to be a part of sports weather u like it or not, thats just life, people will always try to gain an edge over the competition sometimes with little regaurd for their health or moral standing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    and by the way not every athlete wants to take them or would take them if offered. not everyone is willing to exchange money for health. the point of them being illegal is so you can play sports and compete without risking damage to your liver, bacne, ED, kidney shutdown whatever else juice heads have to deal with.

    by the way in other sports like MMA there is a drug test every single time you fight, not randomly like NFL. less opportunities for people to juice, less things we need to worry about.
    The statment i made about peformance enhancers go beyond the range of steroids, which i did not exactly articulate well so thats my fault. My position was supposed to more or less encompass the fact that an athlete will try to maximize their ability to perform given a set of circumstances. It may not be steroids, it could be supplements, differnt training regiments, different diets, coaches etc etc. When performance in the goal you dont just shrug ur shoulders and say oh well im the best ill ever be and just get complacent, you always strive to get better or more efficient at something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    All because people put athletes on a higher level than the rest of us, does not exclude them from doing things the right way. What is the right way? Train clean, eat clean, and live clean... if they cannot perform to superstar status, then they are NOT a superstar. Itís a weak thread that is embedded in them at an early age that says to do anything possible to be better. Thatís narcissism, plan as day.

    And NO, I am the opposite of GOD. I am human, a flawed specimen that will always do things the CLEAN way because nowadays, itís taboo.
    Im not putting athletes on a higher level. But i dont see how hitting homeruns or throwing touchdowns is anywhere close to as bad an influence on kids as video games about killing cops, rappers objectifying women and glorifying drugs, or the complete lack of morals actors and government officals show us. The majority of us do do things the "right" way, but there will always be the people striving to be the best and willing to do whatever it takes to be the best, no one at the top of their game weather its acting, bodybuilding, sports, government whatever hasnt ****ed someone over, done something to give themselves and edge regaurdless of legalities or whatever, and realistically thats why they are the best cause they dont let anything stand in between them and their goal, its not just athletics its everything in the world around u. As to the "weak thread" i do not know enough about psychology to agree or disagree nor do i know how any professional athlete was raised so thats on you i guess.

    And its good u do things the clean way there is nothing wrong with that at all, however you do not rely on your athletic performance to provide for your family.

    I mean realistically if i asked you, "would you take a drug with the known and unknow side effects of steroids to keep your job and provide for your family" would you do it? I dont think there would be too many people to say no to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    I mean realistically if i asked you, "would you take a drug with the known and unknow side effects of steroids to keep your job and provide for your family" would you do it? I dont think there would be too many people to say no to that.
    No, not at all. The choices we make in life are ours to make, so if someone told me that I had to take a drug to keep my job, I would simply find a new one. It's not hard when you have put in the hours and obtained great degrees to fall back on, regardless of the economy. I have to set an example for my family, and I refuse to do so by being frail-minded and following someone else's requirements for my moral thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    The statment i made about peformance enhancers go beyond the range of steroids, which i did not exactly articulate well so thats my fault. My position was supposed to more or less encompass the fact that an athlete will try to maximize their ability to perform given a set of circumstances. It may not be steroids, it could be supplements, differnt training regiments, different diets, coaches etc etc. When performance in the goal you dont just shrug ur shoulders and say oh well im the best ill ever be and just get complacent, you always strive to get better or more efficient at something.
    I understand your position. My arguement is about fairness. If i was a gifted athlete in a world where juice was legal, it would drive me nuts because my competition would be growing stronger at a much faster rate and training twice as much as I could possibly train with adequate recovery. It just wouldnt be fair to allow it because AAS really do give you an edge in sports. Without the juice Barry Bonds would maybe gain, 30-40 pounds or so but given his relatively skinny fasttwich small genetics he wouldnt have been able to hit those 500 foot bombs out of the park. He took up room and made the money that some clean guy deserved because he CHEATED. End of discussion.

    Now can we please focus on Cushings tits???!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    espn radio said today he didn't test positive for steroids though, they said they didn't know what exactly it was, it could have been a masking agent he tested positive for but it wasn't exactly steroids, but i've also heard ppl say theres been rumors around this kid and steroids since high school, i wonder what it was that he took
    hCG.. same as "Manny Being Manny"
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    they said hCG levels are elevated shortly after ejaculation, so Cush might be trying that defense...LOL

    i just read Defranco's website where he is ranting and raving about how Cushing is all natural this and that, at the time of the combine when those rumors emerged. I guess without sauce he would have never made it to this level
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    they said hCG levels are elevated shortly after ejaculation, so Cush might be trying that defense...LOL

    i just read Defranco's website where he is ranting and raving about how Cushing is all natural this and that, at the time of the combine when those rumors emerged. I guess without sauce he would have never made it to this level
    Then we will see if he can indeed make it. I will add that if the Rookie of the Year award was given to an African American player and was being stripped and given to a Caucasian player, all hell would be unleashed from Al Sharpten's group. The whole situation sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Then we will see if he can indeed make it. I will add that if the Rookie of the Year award was given to an African American player and was being stripped and given to a Caucasian player, all hell would be unleashed from Al Sharpten's group. The whole situation sucks.
    oh i dont even pay attention to the racial crap, its 2010 nobody gives a $hit. at this point he probably doesnt even need steroids to play in the NFL, probably finished his cycle before the combine and took the hCG to bounce back in the summer. hes already got the body of an NFL linebacker and enough experience to build upon. he was probably his father's basement freak experiment in high school hahaha

    i cant wait to see the signs people bring to the games!
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    anyone who has coached in NJ (like me) knows all about Cushing and the program he came from. His issues go much further back than his rookie year
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    so they revoted and he got the Def Rookie of the Year again...bull$hit.

    check this out, from PFT, one NFL GM said they knew he was saucing in high school and def didnt wanna take a chance. also a quote from a former USC teammate about how Cush got bigger and bigger from goin back to Jersey.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...brian-cushing/
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    so they revoted and he got the Def Rookie of the Year again...bull$hit.

    check this out, from PFT, one NFL GM said they knew he was saucing in high school and def didnt wanna take a chance. also a quote from a former USC teammate about how Cush got bigger and bigger from goin back to Jersey.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...brian-cushing/
    Not a good idea to qoute PFT, just a rumor mill website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    Not a good idea to qoute PFT, just a rumor mill website.
    I m not judging him at all, but since his days at Bosco, this was well known. Hell I was amazed that he passed any tests heading into the league
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I m not judging him at all, but since his days at Bosco, this was well known. Hell I was amazed that he passed any tests heading into the league
    I agree, I was just saying that its not a good idea to qoute PFT half of what they report is complete BS.

    The only other problem I have with this is Cushing tested positive in sept. he didnt file an appeal til febuary, what happen in that time period why wasnt he suspended, last season
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    I agree, I was just saying that its not a good idea to qoute PFT half of what they report is complete BS.

    The only other problem I have with this is Cushing tested positive in sept. he didnt file an appeal til febuary, what happen in that time period why wasnt he suspended, last season
    They said due to the amount of random tests they do is an extremely high amount to test. Then when and if they get a positive test there is usually an appeal by offender. So, now the sample is split and tested aggain which takes even more time. They said it takes along time. His could of been the 1000th sample tested, which could of been in October. His sample was taken in September, positive test wasnt confirmed until after September, it could of been Oct Nov or even Dec??
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    Not a good idea to qoute PFT, just a rumor mill website.
    i wasnt using it as a reference, just throwing it out there. their article has links to other articles where those quotes were from. I mean its all rumors at this point, its not like Cushing or NFL have made an official statement. were just speculating about Cush's man tits and the underlying cause of those tits.
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