Could you live with yourself????
- 10-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Could you live with yourself????
I saw the preview for that new movie "The Box" and it got me thinking about just what choice would some of you make if in the same situation. Basically "The Box" is about a couple that is presented with the option of getting a million dollars if they push a red button in a box. The twist, by pushing the button, somone will die somewhere. So, I ask, if you knew that pushing this button will get you a million dollars even it means the lost of someone else's life, would you do it? Me, while not a saint, could not live with a clean or clear conscience knowing my "good" fortune is as a result of someone else's death. Could you?
- 10-18-2009, 05:23 PM
I think I read a similar short story where it ended up the wife clicks some button and the person that dies is her husband or something. But yea if it was someone I didn't know then sure i'd do that, I want a GT-R.
- 10-18-2009, 05:31 PM
The thing is, you never who is the person that may die. What if it was someone very close to you? Could you still enjoy driving your GT-R? But, I do respect your answer.
10-18-2009, 05:31 PM
no, I have no need for 1 million and would much rather make someones day and enjoy my life without a potential burden such as that. Notice most people that make loads of money have torn family/personal life. I would rather have the decent personal life/family than money.
10-18-2009, 05:33 PM
10-18-2009, 05:34 PM
Well in the story I read which the movie is probably based off of, it says its someone you don't know, but in the end she just didn't know her husband as well as she thought she did. Anyways tho there are few people that I honestly value that much. I can count then on 2 hands. Chances are i'd press that button.
10-18-2009, 05:35 PM
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10-18-2009, 06:32 PM
I guess those of you that wouldn't press the button could never be world leaders...That's a GOOD thing! Just imagine what kind of a psychopath someone like **** Cheney really is.
He's not the only one, just the one that springs to mind.
10-18-2009, 06:35 PM
10-18-2009, 07:36 PM
I'd press the button, if it would and I knew it would, kill all the rich bankers that run and control the country. Hell, I'd press the button for free if that was the case.
10-18-2009, 08:24 PM
10-18-2009, 08:29 PM
I'd press the button, because we all die someday regardless.
10-18-2009, 08:57 PM
1 million isn't really that much money. It's not enough to be set for life unless you already have significant assets. Can I push it like 10 times?
10-18-2009, 09:44 PM
I'm a firm believer that things move in circles. For every action, there is a reaction. Plain and simple, I wouldn't do it.
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10-18-2009, 10:09 PM
10-18-2009, 10:37 PM
No, never, for no sum. There are people I'd happily kill for free, given the chance and a 'get out of jail free card', but to kill some random person? Could be a kid who grows up to be a genius, could be a Mother Teresa, could be someone caring for their dying father. Hell no.
I'd pull the trigger on someone about to push the button.
10-18-2009, 10:46 PM
Just to make this a little more relevant, I'd argue the point that normal, every day people do this each and every single day already.
Plenty of people own shares in companies which design, manufacture and sell arms all over the world. They profit directly by the proliferation of arms.
Plenty of people own shares in private security firms which conduct clandestine operations for different regimes all over the world - same story.
And so it goes on.
Arguably to push a button to kill someone and get paid is a more moral and honest approach from an individual stand-point. Merely because the individual has to own the outcome, which isn't the case in my above examples.
That's my two cents.
10-18-2009, 10:52 PM
The child of a person who you would kill before said child was conceived could grow up to be a genius, Mother Teresa etc. They would never have the opportunity though because you killed their would-be parent due to some disagreement you had with their actions.
If I jump back 15 years plenty of people would've lined up to take a chunk out of Bill Gates for arguements sakes - look at all the charitable work he's done since.
Tall poppy syndrome is no more reason to kill anyone than is the repression of the under-classes. You are still offing someone for your own purposes/ ends whatever those ends may be. Look at the bloodshed that happened in the French revolution and tell me that was any better - particularly when they ended up merely having a totalitarian 'emporer' rather than a 'king'.
10-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Omar Bashir, this ladies killer, or Richard Heene. OK, I'm kidding about the last one. But you see my point. Killing Omar Bashir could save many, many lives. Now, not in the future.
10-18-2009, 11:47 PM
I look at it like this...
Someone has to die for the million/button tap, correct?
What If i push the button and get the million
I am taking a jet flight to my secluded fantasy island...all the trimmings to go with the trip....about to live it up for a few days!
Oh damn, the person that randomly dies is my freaking pilot (heart attack, kaaaaaboooom), in route to my fantasy island...with me on the plane
Crash, ocean, casket substance
In reality, indirectly, I just killed myself for a measly million bucks....wtf?
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10-19-2009, 12:22 AM
I have a conscience. So, no way I'd do it unless they could guarantee me that it would be someone I do not know.
10-19-2009, 01:27 AM
Arguably a lot less people would've died in World War 2 if we'd all just sided with the facists instead of fighting with them (And a lot of people got very, very rich from that war). Remember at the time the equation didn't involved holocausts & what not - that was one way in which the nazi's funded their ongoing war-effort after all. Therefore arguably the holocaust may have never eventuated. Then remember that out of the ashes of WW2 the Cold War started a lots more people died - does this mean we shouldn't have fought the Nazis? Not IMHO, but it doesn't change the fact that a ****ton of people died (Arguably unecessarily) as a result of the decision to fight them.
The trick is, where do you draw the line? Who decides which reasons are 'justified'? In some cultures it's acceptable to stone people to death for a plethora of reasons, in my eyes and your eyes, these things could be absolutely unjustified. Hell in India women get acid chucked in their faces for things as trivial as another man looking twice at them.
I think if most people were honest they'd happily clip some random person on the other side of the world if it made them a million bucks and would go through the rest of their lives blissfully ignorant of the destruction they caused to serve their own ends. That's why drug lords exist. I'm sure none of them have to strap too many detoxing heroin addicts to a bed in their lives.
My point boils down to; it's all relative to circumstance.
If you had a hundred million in the bank methinks you would quite readily go, "**** your stupid button, I would never do such a thing."
If you were homeless and unemployed though...
All 'civilised' society is only ever three meals away from anarchy as they say.
10-19-2009, 02:05 AM
Omar is a bad dude. But, I kind of like this Heene guy! He kind of reminds me of my bipolar aunt. You never knew what that broad was gonna say or do for attention next!
10-19-2009, 02:22 AM
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10-19-2009, 02:49 AM
10-19-2009, 03:11 AM
a million dollar is not worth ANYone's life, a closed one or a stranger!!
I'd never have pressed that button!!
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