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    Vitamin B-6 Declared a “Drug” by FDA; to be Banned from Vitamin Supplements

    God help us, because the FDA has now opened the gateway for all vitamins to be declared “drugs” and removed from sale by the nutritional supplement industry.

    What they have done is declared that pyridoxamine (one of the three primary forms of vitamin B-6 found in nature, and the most widely used form in multi-vitamin supplements) is in reality a “new drug,” thus clearing the way for it to be banned from sale as a nutritional supplement. (See the news article below this commentary for more details.)

    Here’s what happened:

    A North Carolina-based firm called Biostratum began manufacturing pyridoxamine-based drug called Pyridorin designed to prevent the progression of diabetic nephropathy (kidney disease). The company then petitioned the FDA to declare pyridoxamine a “new drug,” clearing the way for them to hold an iron-clad monopoly on its sale.

    Today, the FDA agreed with Biostratum, and declared this most popular form of vitamin B-6 to indeed be a “new drug,” using the argument that its medical qualities had been under investigation for years before it was ever used as a nutritional supplement under the DSHEA, which ironically was enacted in 1994 in order to protect nutritional supplements from excessive FDA regulation.

    Not to worry, said many observers in the nutritional supplement industry. After all, there are two other natural forms of vitamin B-6 that can still be used in multi-vitamin formulations. The problem is, another drug company has already petitioned the FDA to declare the second most popular form of B-6, pyridoxal 5'-phosphate, which is also called P5P, a “new drug,” apparently for the very same reason pyridoxamine has been declared a drug, i.e., it’s purely medical qualities have been investigated long before it was ever used as a nutritional supplement.

    How much longer until the third most popular natural form of B-6 will be declared a “drug”? You can bet your boots the pharmaceutical companies are racing to get in on the FDA’s new fast-track for turning B-vitamins into drugs.

    Will All Vitamins Eventually Be Declared Drugs?

    Worst of all, the very same argument being used to declare vitamin B6 a “drug” can essentially be made for any vitamin. After all, every known vitamin on the face of the earth has been studied for their medicinal qualities even since the discovery of the existence of vitamins in food back in 1905, when a scientist named William Fletcher realized that foods contained special nutrients that actually prevented disease.

    It is easy to see that the day is soon-coming in which all vitamins will be offered solely as “drugs,” by prescription only.

    One of the most galling aspects of the whole thing is that the FDA flatly refuses to allow nutritional supplement manufacturers to even mention the incredible medicinal values of the vitamins, minerals and other supplements they sell. Indeed, the FDA routinely claims vitamin and mineral supplements are “useless” and “inert.” Yet when a drug company develops the same natural molecule as a “drug,” suddenly its medical benefits can be touted from the rooftops. The only problem is, the drug company is given a monopoly to produce the “drug,” and what was once a natural product available inexpensively in any health food store in America is now an expensive drug you have to get a prescription for.

    Drug-Induced B-6 Deficiency a Growing Phenomena

    Another serious issue regarding B-6 is that a growing number of medications actually deplete the body of this vital nutrient that is absolutely essential to life. The syndrome is called Drug Induced Pyridoxine Deficiency, and several drugs, including drugs for the treatment of tuberculosis, Parkinson’s Disease and for cancer are known to cause this syndrome, which essentially turns you into a mental vegetable by depleting your body of its needed stores of vitamin B-6.

    In the past, people having to take these drugs could simply go down to their local health food store and pick up an inexpensive bottle of vitamin B-6 in order to prevent the depletion syndrome. But due to the new FDA ruling, people using these drugs will no longer be able to do so. Instead they will have to get a prescription from their doctor, and purchase the expensive “drug” form of the vitamin in order to resolve the devastating mental side effects of the first drug!

    Foods that Contain Vitamin B-6 Naturally

    Under the circumstances it is important to note that certain foods contain vitamin B-6 naturally. They are, in order of their content percentage of the recommended daily value of the vitamin:

    Baked potato, flesh and skin, 1 medium: 0.7 mg ~ 35% DV
    Banana, raw, 1 medium: 0.68 mg ~ 34% DV
    Garbanzo beans, canned, 1/2 c: 0.57 mg ~ 30% DV
    Chicken breast, meat only, cooked, 1/2 breast: 0.52 mg ~ 25% DV
    Pork loin, lean only, cooked, 3 oz: 0.42 mg ~20% DV
    Roast beef, eye of round, lean only, cooked, 3 oz: 0.32 mg ~ 15% DV
    Trout, rainbow, cooked, 3 oz: 0.29 mg ~ 15% DV
    Sunflower seeds, kernels, dry roasted, 1 oz: 0.23 mg ~ 10% DV
    Avocado, raw, sliced, 1/2 cup: 0.2 mg ~ 10% DV
    Salmon, Sockeye, cooked, 3 oz: 0.19 mg ~ 10% DV
    Tuna, canned in water, drained solids, 3 oz: 0.18 mg ~ 10% DV
    Peanut butter, smooth, 2 Tbs: 0.15 mg ~ 8% DV

    More importantly, safe, simple Brewer’s Yeast contains relatively high levels of B-vitamins, including the pyridoxine form of B-6. Capsulated Brewer’s Yeast can be purchased in just about any health food store in the country, or is available through many online sources.

    What to Do Now

    Legally speaking, as of today, anyone wanting to purchase the pyridoxamine form of B-6, and probably soon the P5P form, will have to have a doctor's prescription to do so. Of course, the ruling is brand new, and it is going to take some time for the FDA to implement it. Meanwhile, the pyridoxamine form of vitamin B-6 is still widely available in health food stores across the country. I suspect, however, not for long.

    Today I went down to my local health food store and stocked up on a number of bottles of NOW Brand “B-50” vitamins, which contains the pyridoxamine form of B-6 along with all other B vitamins in 50 mg. per capsule dosages. I also picked up a number of bottles of the pure vitamin B6, in 100 mg. per capsule dosages. Since this vitamin is essential to cardiovascular health as well as mental health (and is also widely used to help heal carpal tunnel syndrome), it might be wise for you to do the same, particularly if the B vitamins are an integral part of your regular natural health regimen.

    Another thing you can do is go to the web site of the American Association for Health Freedom and sign their petition to stop the FDA from turning any more vitamins into drugs.

    You should also write and call your Congressmen and Senators immediately, and tell them you don’t want the FDA banning any more vitamins by turning them into “drugs.”


    It is high time we all start expressing our outrage at this outlandish behavior by the FDA and other bureaucracies in regards to their disdain for nutritional supplements. We now have the EPA trying to re-classify colloidal silver as a "pesticide" so they can ban its sale in health food stores. And we have the FDA actually re-classifying common vitamins as drugs. And it is all at the behest of the major pharmaceutical companies.

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    The day I have to pay a goddamn copay and prescription charge for 50 cents worth of vitamins is the day these corrupt f*ckers need to start wearing bulletproof vests.

    Imagine, now...people in prison for smuggling vitamins. Ridiculous? Watch and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    The day I have to pay a goddamn copay and prescription charge for 50 cents worth of vitamins is the day these corrupt f*ckers need to start wearing bulletproof vests.

    Imagine, now...people in prison for smuggling vitamins. Ridiculous? Watch and see.
    where can i buy a kilo of p5p powder matt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    where can i buy a kilo of p5p powder matt?
    It's about $200, but easily purchased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    It's about $200, but easily purchased.
    hmm probably worth having. really its only what it costs for 12 bottles, and i go thru a bottle a month anyhow @ 150mg a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hmm probably worth having. really its only what it costs for 12 bottles, and i go thru a bottle a month anyhow @ 150mg a day
    And has potential as a topical, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Imagine, now...people in prison for smuggling vitamins. Ridiculous? Watch and see.
    i'm picturing some guy with a hat and overcoat hanging out near the bleachers with the football team... "i've got B-6, B-12, even some D-3!"
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    that is just crazy.. another step to another freedom lost
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    i'm picturing some guy with a hat and overcoat hanging out near the bleachers with the football team... "i've got B-6, B-12, even some D-3!"
    NARC NARC!!!


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    The thing that's maddening is that it's about nothing more than profit. NOTHING. It's a naturally occurring substance. Is hydrogen peroxide next? What about water? I hear that oxygen is great for a number of things the least of which is sustaining life. Why not make THAT prescription?
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    I read about this last week. Simply, unbelieveable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionic View Post
    The thing that's maddening is that it's about nothing more than profit. NOTHING. It's a naturally occurring substance. Is hydrogen peroxide next? What about water? I hear that oxygen is great for a number of things the least of which is sustaining life. Why not make THAT prescription?
    Water has been studied medicinally for years.

    Just saying...same as B-6. You CANNOT FREAKING FORCE riduculous profits on something essential for life and health. You getting this yet FDA?
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    This is really nauseating! :

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    ****in' a . . . where's this gonna end ?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    The day I have to pay a goddamn copay and prescription charge for 50 cents worth of vitamins is the day these corrupt f*ckers need to start wearing bulletproof vests.

    Imagine, now...people in prison for smuggling vitamins. Ridiculous? Watch and see.
    Sounds a bit like what was happening with Bill C-51 in Canada, that sorta fell of the radar.
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    theres a link here at the end of the last paragraph for FDA reform its a petition... just found it

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    Are we going to see a limit on the amount of food we can buy?

    Seriously imagine, "Sorry sir you have reached your RDA for protein I can not serve you anymore steak."

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    They've already got a company selling prescription fish oil (Lovaza) and they mark UP the price 1,273%. This **** needs to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WittyName View Post
    Are we going to see a limit on the amount of food we can buy?

    Seriously imagine, "Sorry sir you have reached your RDA for protein I can not serve you anymore steak."

    the precedent is already being prepared with this, via college sports, etc. Since they are pushing for universal heallth coverage, anything they feel would cost "taxpayers" more money is now under their control (smoking eating, body-mass index, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WittyName View Post
    Are we going to see a limit on the amount of food we can buy?

    Seriously imagine, "Sorry sir you have reached your RDA for protein I can not serve you anymore steak."

    i cant even explain how this pisses me off

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    The day I have to pay a goddamn copay and prescription charge for 50 cents worth of vitamins is the day these corrupt f*ckers need to start wearing bulletproof vests.

    Imagine, now...people in prison for smuggling vitamins. Ridiculous? Watch and see.
    i must spread some reputation before giving it to dsade again ....
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    Really its coming...
    We are the minority.
    You know how sick and tired I get of being ostracized because I adhere to a healthy diet, work-out, try to live a healthy life.
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    Ridiculous. And this is what everyone is proud of? All our freedoms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    ****in' a . . . where's this gonna end ?!


    .. Good thing the new 'president' just signed a bill to further increase the governments' control over us ordinary people. 'Land of the free' ?! I think NOT !
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    same bull**** is happening over in the UK too!

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vitamins/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esox Express View Post
    What? The land of the Free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
    They were old assumptions . . . from the era before Obama got in office . .
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    this makes me very violent




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    just nobody tell neoborn about this thread, or he'll come in posting about the codex alimentus
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    Screw this is BS.. I feel like i am going to have a stroke. Our country has not become a communist nation. I hope when the **** hits the fan people remember all the scum sucking politicians and wall street sleeze bags. Its time we take back what it being taken from us !
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    Quote Originally Posted by machine528 View Post
    Screw this is BS.. I feel like i am going to have a stroke. Our country has not become a communist nation. I hope when the **** hits the fan people remember all the scum sucking politicians and wall street sleeze bags. Its time we take back what it being taken from us !
    What have you done for this Country?
    (Serious question)
    But you are calling this Country, one in which I sacrificed my being for, a Communist Country. Have you ever been to a Communist State? I have, and this Country is nothing like it. Yes, the FDA is screwing up, but we need to be pro-active and not neg-active.
    And how are you going to take back what has been taken from you? Can you enlighten me on this?
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    I should rephrase the communist part. Our country is starting to resemble a communist nation. We are being forced to pay for the mistakes of a few greedy individuals with this multi trillion dollar bail out and now we are on the verge of losing our right to good health. The government needs to dissasociate itself from corporate america and stop trying to bleed the average citizen out of every penny they have. I, myself cannot take back anything that was taken away. No ammount of petitions to stop govermnent certain FDA actions can help, they will do what they want and its getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machine528 View Post
    I should rephrase the communist part. Our country is starting to resemble a communist nation. We are being forced to pay for the mistakes of a few greedy individuals with this multi trillion dollar bail out and now we are on the verge of losing our right to good health. The government needs to dissasociate itself from corporate america and stop trying to bleed the average citizen out of every penny they have. I, myself cannot take back anything that was taken away. No ammount of petitions to stop govermnent certain FDA actions can help, they will do what they want and its getting old.
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    This is sickening. What is more sickening is that this crap is becoming more and more accepted/ignored by Americans. When you take a step back and ask yourself who gives them the right to tell me it is illegal to put ANYTHING in my body, it can be infuriating to think that we're even at this point. Sure they were "elected"-but NOT to do this job. This is not the intended function of our government and it does not serve the people. The health industry is just our little niche that we hold dear but this brand of "politics" and law making is sadly commonplace in pretty much anything the government touches.
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    You're right we don't live in a communist country we live in a capitilist country which in some ways is worse since our freedoms are taken away b/c of greed and money. And do you really think that the govmn't is going to listen to you or help you more b/c you served your country? Psssh yea they have a good track record with that. Vietnam, Desert Storm, 9-11 are a few examples. Don't get me wrong, I thank you for protecting the little freedom I do have. But the land of the free ain't so free anymore.
    You may not think it will help however I urge everyone on here that doesn't want more of this B.S. to keep happening to fill out this petition and send it. It only takes a couple seconds to fill out your name and all. It brings awareness to the issue and it lets your congress person know the issues you care about.https://secure3.convio.net/aahf/site...rAction&id=245
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    What it boils down to for me is -Is this country a better place to live than most places in the world?- YES. Does that mean we should ignore changes to it and just be thankful for what we do have? NO. People died to start it, people have died protecting it and certain ideas, and I'll be damn if I ever take the attitude " oh well , at least it's better than Bosnia." Unfortunately we are limited with what we can do. We can write, email, call our lawmakers and vote certain ways but the dollar just speaks louder to them.
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    Read......Learn......Codex Alimentarius

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