Crossfit?? Wtf

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I am so sick of hearing about F'ing crossfit. I swear if I have to wait for another tard doing a set of 30 on deadlifts, there will be blood. You want to get in shape? Well, then go join an MMA gym, but don't forget to add in some heavy ass weight training as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by robdog View Post
    Yup. Its garbage. Lift some heavy ass weight and do some goddamn cardio. O how I miss watchin the tards doing 30 rep deadlifts followed by a quick set of shoulder dislocating/bouncing/assisted pullups.
    Crossfit is being used in the military, Marine Corps, Canadian SF, Army SF, etc...

    IMO, it's very similar to Matt Fuery's combat conditioning workout, MAX Calisthenics in no time limit, he illustrates almost 150+.

    Usually it lasts around 30-45 minutes or so, more than the time of an average fight, weather MMA or Military/LE fight.

    And before the crossfit craze, Tom Venuto also discussed this here,

    Functional strength training vs bodybuilding

    They're all very close and all very effective, but crossfit "just happened" to become the most popular one with the public, the most "user friendly" one of them all.

    EDIT: Doing weights and then 70-80% HRM cardio is not the same as a crossfit type workout, the desired effect from the crossfit cannot be achieved by doing weights/80% cardio, but vice versa IS possible.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Omen View Post
    Crossfit is being used in the military, Marine Corps, Canadian SF, Army SF, etc...

    IMO, it's very similar to Matt Fuery's combat conditioning workout, MAX Calisthenics in no time limit, he illustrates almost 150+.

    Usually it lasts around 30-45 minutes or so, more than the time of an average fight, weather MMA or Military/LE fight.

    And before the crossfit craze, Tom Venuto also discussed this here,

    Functional strength training vs bodybuilding

    They're all very close and all very effective, but crossfit "just happened" to become the most popular one with the public, the most "user friendly" one of them all.

    EDIT: Doing weights and then 70-80% HRM cardio is not the same as a crossfit type workout, the desired effect from the crossfit cannot be achieved by doing weights/80% cardio, but vice versa IS possible.
    I will stick to heavy ass compound lifts and cardio.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Omen View Post
    Crossfit is being used in the military, Marine Corps, Canadian SF, Army SF, etc...

    IMO, it's very similar to Matt Fuery's combat conditioning workout, MAX Calisthenics in no time limit, he illustrates almost 150+.

    Usually it lasts around 30-45 minutes or so, more than the time of an average fight, weather MMA or Military/LE fight.

    And before the crossfit craze, Tom Venuto also discussed this here,

    Functional strength training vs bodybuilding

    They're all very close and all very effective, but crossfit "just happened" to become the most popular one with the public, the most "user friendly" one of them all.

    EDIT: Doing weights and then 70-80% HRM cardio is not the same as a crossfit type workout, the desired effect from the crossfit cannot be achieved by doing weights/80% cardio, but vice versa IS possible.
    How long do you think that an MMA training session lasts? It is very common to have them last 2+ hours and that's not including other cardio and weight training. The average HR during these sessions is in the 180-190 range during every round.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by robdog View Post
    I will stick to heavy ass compound lifts and cardio.

    And....?

    Crossfit is not being advertised for "everyone", if your goal is to get as big as possible with as little body fat as possible and that's it then, what you're doing now is probably most effective at that.

    If your goal is to develop great fitness (strength, explosiveness, short endurance (20-40mins)etc.....) and as little body fat as possible and also add size, crossfit is most effective at that.


  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    How long do you think that an MMA training session lasts? It is very common to have them last 2+ hours and that's not including other cardio and weight training. The average HR during these sessions is in the 180-190 range during every round.
    True, I remember some sessions from Judo, Aikido and Muay Thai training, Muay Thai was the most brutal.

    But, Combat Conditioing's Matt Furey already discussed this and try to get fighters ready for combat, then he would run them through dozens of combat conditioning exercises(calisthenics) MAX EFFORT and resting 10-15 seconds in between, no time limit, stop when you're done.

    What he said is similar to crossfit, just no time limit and mainly calisthenics, IMO this makes more sense than 80% cardio (jumping rope, I used to do 1 hour 20 mins and be done, after calisthenics) and seperate weight training.

    Instead it treats exercising the same way a fight would go, intense, no longer than 30 mins, Max effort, That's what I think is a better way to train and be combat ready, looking to fight locally just for fun, and this is the way I'll be training, with other exercises ofcourse.
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  6. it's funny how strong some of these crossfitter critters are, yet you wouldn't even know it to look at em if you didn't see em doing it. now that IS functional strength. but me, i like some aesthetic, too. so, it's not quite for me.

  7. Too often people look at Crossfit and immediate associate the program with the intense met-con workouts (metabolic conditioning, the HIIT style weight sessions). Although it certainly distinguishes it from other programs, that's not what its all about.

    The title Crossfit implies exactly that, Cross-Fitness.... fitness across broad domains. The 10 domains of fitness are the backbone to Crossfit, and that is what we train for. In the Crossfitter's mindset, what good is a 400lb backsquat if you can't run a mile in under 7 minutes? And vice versa, what good is a sub-5 minute mile if you can squat 2x your bodyweight? It strives to excel at everything.. to be as physically capable as possible, ready for any challenge. "Specialization is for insects". Be able to do everything... gymnastics, to track and field, to olympic weight lifting. It's a way to get back in touch with what functionally works. No machines, no bicep curls, no elipticals. Effective training across wide domains... no fancy B.S.

    The functionality is what hooked me. It just works. But a huge factor in its growing popularity is the competition factor. Many of the workouts, the met-cons, are "for time", or points are allocated. Fastest time wins, or the most points wins. People will absolutely destroy themselves to shave off 10 seconds, or will give it everything they got just to get in 5 more push presses in the time allowed. It's something else, as its made training into an actual sport. And as mentioned, the broad range of exercises combined in endless variations brings new challenges and literally fun workouts.

    Best thing to do is try it if your curious about it. Just about every Crossfit gym offers a free first class, so you have nothing to lose. Check out Crossfit.com and hit the "Affiliates" page to search in your state.

  8. Just a spare thought - I track my Crossfit workouts daily, and if someone out there is interested in the program but doesn't understand the seeminly random system, I'll be glad to post a log. Workouts will still appear to be randomized, but at least you could view it on a day by day basis (might do something, I have no idea).

    And I meant to throw this out there before as well - if you ever have any questions about Crossfit, hit me up. I love talking about the program, and although I'm not a certified trainer, I'll do my best to answer any questions if you have them.

    Edit - Posted a log to help give an example of an average Crossfit program ... Crossfit Log
    Last edited by Highlanda01602; 09-28-2008 at 01:07 PM.

  9. Here's a link that I believe can explain the seemingly randomness of Crossfit. Graphs included.
    ADVANCED MUSCLE SCIENCE
    Strongest On The Market
    RECOVERBRO: Est. Post #3222
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