TOO similar. Looks like primordial made them even. Very sneaky. But thats supps for ya.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Also check the logs brah. They are just as effective. They are not riding the coattails of the stacked andro products. We brought these compounds to the market... (under another company years ago). PP didn't even sell half the stuff in the FRL line.
Company sponsored logs? Yeah im sure they are. They arent just as effective. My rough estimate is about half. Maybe a little more than half. But not much.
Nah we sold the products a year before ever giving out sponsored logs. Try again. Your rough estimate sucks.
Lets agree to disagree and quit trying to be aggressive just to take up for your company. Im well aware of how this works. They pay you, of course youre going to say their products are just as good. Jay cutler says "this is what i take" as he holds a bottle of build hd (crappy creatine product)... I guess im suppose to beleive him too huh?
Lets just say you are wrong and again have no idea what you're talking about. If you have anything useful to say please say it. Otherwise leave this sub forum with your "these suck cuz I said so" posts. Otherwise expect similar replies.
Youre the ONLY person replying like this. Wonder why? Im sure it has nothing to do with u being a rep. And btw. I didnt really say they suck. They dont suck. But. Youre lying to yourself and you know it if you think they hold a candle to the androseries. Where is the FDA raiding you guys at ??? Primordial got raided because they work that good and FDA expects foul play. They would be doing the same to you if your stuff worked as well as primordials.
Im obviously no rep and everyone is entitled to the opinion of their choice.
actually, people just arnt responding to your babling becuase its ****in stupid. the reasonn pp got raided was because they compared their substances to injectable test on their advertising, call their products dshea legal steroids, and they say that pp's products are overdosed to dangerous levels
News flash, we were raided years ago. Brb FDA is calling:FDA - "You brahs getting the gains from your products?"Me - "O yes we are sir"FDA - " BRB coming over"^That's exactly how the FDA works. You know everything.
Have you read any FRL or AMS logs...? Looks like the work to me.
How is he being aggressive? You came into an FRL sub forum attacking the product. He reps them cuz he knows they work.
I didnt attack? Did you read my post. Im entitled to the opinion that they "are far lest effective" than primordial. Is that an attack to you? No. He attacked me insulting me saying i dont know what im talking about. Pretty sure forum rules dont say anything about me not being able to state my opinion in a non hostile or offensive way.
I never said you broke the rule. I was rather implying that you are speaking objectively and seeing how you have no first hand experience I'm guessing, your opinion doesn't matter here.
Actually you said:"I assume u are talking about the alpha bulk and alpha mass by forerunner? And no. They arent. Theyre far weaker and less effective. They sure are riding the coattails of the androseries tho."You said definitely they are weaker, and less effective. And that we are riding coattails. You presented zero evidence of any of that. You seem mad now? Did I hurt your internet feelings? My internet feelings feel guilty now.
And what was the price difference between the 2?
My question to you is what makes you believe that the high dose of 4-DHEA in Andromass was necessary?
More active equates to a higher price. Your logic doesn't add up.
I have played with a lot of 4-DHEA, and although I'm fairly sensitive to E2 in general, it seems the higher you take the dose the law of diminishing returns begins to apply. You start experiencing a greater increase in estrogen, and the additional 4-DHEA doesn't seem to really increase test beyond "normal" testosterone levels. They did claim it increased testosterone to supra physiological levels. I don't believe that was ever true. The amount we put in Alpha Bulk was designed to increase testosterone enough so that you would not experience the negative side effects of low libido, and lethargy due to zero to little testosterone in your system.
Have you used the product yourself?
No, that should be apparent. I'm looking to be confinced that these are properly dosed.
Look at the androstenedione studies. They consistently found greater increases in estrogen compared to testosterone. Additionally we believe based on this evidence that the two step 1-DHEA's/4-DHEA's are more efficiently converting to diols. Not diones. Our entire basis for dosing can be found at the following:
Whoa whoa whoa, it was a simple question. No need for smart remarks.
That wasn't a smart remark, he spelled something wrong.
Hahaha touche'.
You have no idea why the FDA raided PP. To simply say that it was because they worked that good is an ignorant statement at best. Please follow the following link to see what Eric of PP has said as to the reason. He even states that he himself does not know the full reason as because the affidavit is still sealed.
I didn't know you guys were raided. Just out of curiosity, what was the outcome of the raid? Are the DHEA isomers recognized by the FDA as dietary supplements, or do you think they're in the process of mounting an "attack" against them?
Lots of money lost. It was related to the sale of sd, and dienelone ph's.
What is your question?
