women and prohormones

[POWERLIFTER87]

I asked a question last week in the steriods section, and got a few responses, but none from other women, so I'm gonna ask again here. I've seen a few women post in this section about using steroids/prohormones so if ya'll wouldn't mind helping me out it would be greatly appreciated.

Just to give you a little background, I'm a female powerlifter and have been training consistently for 4 years. I'm 5'4" 265lbs. and my best lifts raw are 555lbs. squat, 465lbs. deadlift, and 300lbs.x2reps bench. I'm currently training to break the women's world record raw bench, which is currently 391.3lbs. and hit some high raw squat and deadlift numbers. Also, I'm 20 years old, and will be 21 in just over a month. So far, I haven't used any ph or steriods.

I've been considering trying one of the legal ph's such as mmv2 by lgsciences, or something similar to that. If anyone that has experience with these type of things could give me some advice, and what would be the best route to go in regards to what my goals are?

Also, more generally in regards to ph/steriods, what would pct be like for women, or is it not suggested for women at all (as I had read in a few places that it may not be but I don't know)?

Thanks for your time.

 

[BigCasino]

WOW that is some impressive strength my friend

Does the contest that you will be competing in ban PHs / test for them? If so, I don't think it is worth the risk, even though there might be a good chance you could do it undetected.

The main reason I say this is because if you have made it that far naturally, you are so close, I bet you could make the rest of the way there too.


If you did decide to go that route though....

Anabolic Extreme is supposed to have something coming out called 3-AD, they are a board sponsor here, I bet if you told them you were trying to breakt he record they would like to help you out

Beyond that, there is Epistane / Havoc (same compound, diff names) by IBE or RPN, sold @ Nutraplanet. That's supposed to be a nice low-sides PH.

I know lgsciences has some PHs but I believe they are generally weaker / milder, and if you are going to take the risk, might as well get as much as you can out of it.

Don't worry, there are people here that know far more about this than I.

We have a female board member, Crader, who I like likes PHs, you might want to message her and ask her advice, she is a nice girl

 

[POWERLIFTER87]

Well, I can choose to compete tested or non-tested. So, that doesn't really matter. It's not that I don't think I could get there naturally. I do believe I could, just that it would probably take several years still, and the best keep getting better if you know what I mean. There's a reason why none of them are competing drug-tested and I'm sure it's not because they just don't like the idea of pissing in a cup. It would also be nice to recover faster and train really heavy more often.

 

[T-Bone]

5'4 and 265???? Dang!. Lets see some pics!

 

[POWERLIFTER87]

5'4 and 265???? Dang!. Lets see some pics!

There ya go. Check my avatar now. That was from about 6 months ago, and I was about 258-260lbs. in that pic.

 

[crader]

Well I use anavar and have had some luck with 4ad cyp with no sides. My strength has went up but I can't say how it would work for you because I don't train for strength.

Havoc and 11-oxo both gave me voice lowering so I dropped them. Although I didn't have trouble with Havoc until I added the 11-OXO in for cortisol. I have never used anyrhing from Legal Gear so I can't comment on those. Basically you just need to watch closely for sides and stop and go natural if they develop. But Anavar has been very easy on me. I hear Winstrol either works well or has really bad virilazation depends on you.

I don't really use any PCT. I've experimented with 6 oxo some on a small scale. Basically I just back my liver and take support supplements. Good luck on your goals!! Its nice to see another woman here.

 

[POWERLIFTER87]

Well I use anavar and have had some luck with 4ad cyp with no sides. My strength has went up but I can't say how it would work for you because I don't train for strength.

Havoc and 11-oxo both gave me voice lowering so I dropped them. Although I didn't have trouble with Havoc until I added the 11-OXO in for cortisol. I have never used anyrhing from Legal Gear so I can't comment on those. Basically you just need to watch closely for sides and stop and go natural if they develop. But Anavar has been very easy on me. I hear Winstrol either works well or has really bad virilazation depends on you.

I don't really use any PCT. I've experimented with 6 oxo some on a small scale. Basically I just back my liver and take support supplements. Good luck on your goals!! Its nice to see another woman here.

Alright, thanks for your response. So, it seems like you're saying it's pretty much experimenting and figuring out what works that way.

 

[crader]

Actually I'll pm you a good site that has a bunch of womens experiences and then you can have a little more insight on the sides. Its hard to say experiment because some of the sides will never go away if you are wrong! Not a good price to pay. Anavar is the one I would recommend to start with.

 

[ReaperX]

What about Furazadrol for women ? It is similar to Winni-V.

 

[LG Sciences]

Bad idea. Very androgenic.

I would say 19Nor is the best for females.

 

[POWERLIFTER87]

Thanks crader. I'll check out that site.

I would say 19Nor is the best for females.

And that is basically the stuff you sell. Or am I wrong?

 

[LG Sciences]

No, I don't sell it at all under LG Sciences. We are thinking about making a transdermal thoughof 19NorAndro

 

[BMW]

No, I don't sell it at all under LG Sciences. We are thinking about making a transdermal thoughof 19NorAndro

wow really is that legal if so thats great we can we expect this?

 

[Hatebreed930]

You should do 150mgs of Anadrol for 3 months. LOL just kidding. I say screw The PHs as you have no idea what sides will occur. As previous repliers said a Anavar and Nandrolone (deca) combo would be the best route, as many women have done this. Nothing personal against LG sciences but I used there Methyl 1-d and it was a complete failure and did absolutely nothing, and was also expensive.

 

[kbtoy31]

You should do 150mgs of Anadrol for 3 months. LOL just kidding. I say screw The PHs as you have no idea what sides will occur. As previous repliers said a Anavar and Nandrolone (deca) combo would be the best route, as many women have done this. Nothing personal against LG sciences but I used there Methyl 1-d and it was a complete failure and did absolutely nothing, and was also expensive.

UMM did you just say no to PH's b/c u don't know what kind of sides she may have but yea go ahed and do a cycle of Var and Deca. Umm you do realize if there were gonna be sides it would be more so with AAS right? Unless you're referring to liver strain and such from Methylated PH's.

 

[ValentineA]

19nor will be tren xtreme by american cell labs. It gives me a good results. But it will make your body getting bigger. Do a research about this product first.

Next cycle i'll stack 2weeks of h-drol by cel, 2weeks more with h-drol and tren xtreme and last 2 weeks with 11oxo.

I know the side effects like virilization will happen here. But that's fine for me.

Don't forget multivitamins, liver support (if its methlyated products), try to get enough potassium, taurine, magnesium, hawnthorn berry or garlic oil(for blood preasure),
Please do a lot of research first.

 

[crader]

UMM did you just say no to PH's b/c u don't know what kind of sides she may have but yea go ahed and do a cycle of Var and Deca. Umm you do realize if there were gonna be sides it would be more so with AAS right? Unless you're referring to liver strain and such from Methylated PH's.

In a woman we tend to have WAY less sides from AAS like anavar ( I do not recommend deca) then any prohormone. I had sides with prohormones in 2 weeks and virtually none with anavar.

 

[Delita420]

In a woman we tend to have WAY less sides from AAS like anavar ( I do not recommend deca) then any prohormone. I had sides with prohormones in 2 weeks and virtually none with anavar.

Could you pulse it and see fewer sides?

 

[crader]

Could you pulse it and see fewer sides?

A prohormone? I doubt it would make a huge difference. I don't pulse things so I don't know. I just know that the prohormones dont work for me.

 

[Loretta]

I asked a question last week in the steriods section, and got a few responses, but none from other women, so I'm gonna ask again here. I've seen a few women post in this section about using steroids/prohormones so if ya'll wouldn't mind helping me out it would be greatly appreciated.

Just to give you a little background, I'm a female powerlifter and have been training consistently for 4 years. I'm 5'4" 265lbs. and my best lifts raw are 555lbs. squat, 465lbs. deadlift, and 300lbs.x2reps bench. I'm currently training to break the women's world record raw bench, which is currently 391.3lbs. and hit some high raw squat and deadlift numbers. Also, I'm 20 years old, and will be 21 in just over a month. So far, I haven't used any ph or steriods.

I've been considering trying one of the legal ph's such as mmv2 by lgsciences, or something similar to that. If anyone that has experience with these type of things could give me some advice, and what would be the best route to go in regards to what my goals are?

Also, more generally in regards to ph/steriods, what would pct be like for women, or is it not suggested for women at all (as I had read in a few places that it may not be but I don't know)?

Thanks for your time.

I have some personal experience in this area, but I'm no expert! If you still have any questions, feel free to PM me.

I've never trained for power like you do, but I do train for strength and muscle tone. If it matters, I can flat bench 75-pound dumbbells with ease, but I am sure that I am no match for you! :-D

 

[ValentineA]

Actually I'll pm you a good site that has a bunch of womens experiences and then you can have a little more insight on the sides. Its hard to say experiment because some of the sides will never go away if you are wrong! Not a good price to pay. Anavar is the one I would recommend to start with.

Hi crader,
may i know the good site?
please pm me,
thanks

 

[shapinoweno]

yes crader my wife is also asking me about ph's. a good site would be great for me to show her. she has been researching with not to much luck. thanks

 

[retroshaper]

Crader please pm me the site as well. Thanks.

 

[bboyflash]

masterdrol is great 4 strength n focus!

 

[sonny4753]

OK, so any females have any experience with running a low dosage HDrol - Turinabol cycle? Say 5mgs or so? Curious to see (being a very mild PH-->AAS) if little or no side effectts occurred. From what I've read that compound "should" cause zero to almost nill virilization in females...but that was a uncited pdf file on the internet lol.

 

[Dave818]

OK, so any females have any experience with running a low dosage HDrol - Turinabol cycle? Say 5mgs or so? Curious to see (being a very mild PH-->AAS) if little or no side effectts occurred. From what I've read that compound "should" cause zero to almost nill virilization in females...but that was a uncited pdf file on the internet lol.

my partner has taken them over two weeks up to 25mg a day saw awesome results in muscle and fat loss no virilization even at 25mg no real sides either except some aggression!!!!! PCt was where we wernt sure, got some tests done afterwards and the docs prescribed her to a progesterone cream. So that might be the female pct my girl has since come good and wants to do another couple of weeks down the track. I would just keep the cycle short and if you have sides stop. She felt strength increases in first week alot faster than guys do on H-Drol and good muscle tone. Hope this helps anymore questions let me know i will help as much as i can. Oh and make sure you drink a **** load of water!

 

[Dave818]

sorry sonny will pm you shortly need one more post lol

 

[Dave818]

Just a bit of an update on this post my gf was at the docs a few weeks back and the talk of her fitness came up she told him about how she works out and supps that she takes and she did a short H-drol cycle he asked to bring in the bottle so he could research it. A week later she went back and he said although he does not condone it he does not see any problem with it as long as its done sensibly he recomended taking it the morning cause thats when the brain releases hormones in females. this doc was really cool and full of info even gonna help with info for pct. will keep updating as i find out more my gf is into week 2 on her 2nd cycle and again already seeing awesome results. shes going back to see the doc in a week for a check up so for any1 interested i will try and keep this updated.

 

[howie6]

your gonna make me jealous that ur doctor is that cool haha

 

[wastedwhiteboy2]

Sweet. I'd like more info on this.

 

[Jasen]

ill keep an eyue on this! pls add ALOT of info! explain a detailed cycle set up and besgt pct, alot of femlaes ask me for advice on PH i want to attain more knowledge in female bodyes and ph

 

[snailpwnage]

I seen this so id figured id post. I'm a Bikini Competitor and did a 8 week cycle of hdrol . I started at 10 mgs for the first week then 15mg the next continuing up by 5mg each week till I was up to 25 mg. It was cel stuff so it was 25 mg capsule, I would just open it up and kinda eyeball it which worked fine (it got much easier when i was at 25 mgs only had to take half morning half night lol). I went from 120 lbs to 130. I had some sensitivity down there but that wasn't bad and just made sex way more enjoyable during cycle. Everything went back to normal 2 weeks after cycle sensitivity wise.

I started my second cycle last Wednesday. I figured last time I went in way to careful because i wanted to make sure i wasn't going to get sides and grow hair or my voice get all manly. Week one will be 15mgs going up by 5 mgs till i hit 25 mgs.

My macros
On days i workout P210 C 210 F 45
Non workout days P210 C 170 F 45

Training schedule is 5 days a week

Mondays Leg day Strength low reps Abs
Tuesdays Back Day
Wednesday Legday Quad Dominant Hypertrophy, Abs
Thursday Chest
Friday-Off
Saturday Leg day Posterior chain hypertophy, ABS
Sunday Off

I dont do cardio unless im 12weeks out from a competition.

I won my last AMMY competition but I want my Pro card and these girls have some real legs on them so im using this whole year to develop my legs and midsection. I will compete April 2017

Current Cycle
Start 5/25/2016
One week in and I can say starting at 15 mgs is where its at for me I can already feel it starting to work, where as last cycle I didnt feel anything till end of week 2. Felt like i wasted my time had 0 gains.

Im up from 130 lbs to 132

I will tell you guys out there dont let your girls be afraid of this compound. If they are not trying to gain some serious muscle like 10lbs like me id suggest 10 -15 mgs for 8 weeks. Its a great compound for a summer body. At this low of a dose even at 25 mgs i never once felt any lethargy nothing. I feel bad for guy cause they have to take so much of this amazing product. Ive done real var before and ill never touch that overpriced stuff again. This beats it hands down.

If you want me to make a cycle log just let me know and ill log this one.

 

[Heavychevss]

Snail,
Would you mind sharing (pm is fine) what brand you are using this run? Sounds like it was working better or maybe just more evenly mixed with the fillers giving you a better dose. My better half is interested in doing similar cycle.
TIA!
Rich

 

[snailpwnage]

No problem ya im using the Steel Crushers. Ya these are not capsule they are a hard pill which is why I think they may be more potent. Plus i love that each pill is 5 mg so i dont have to guesstimate how much to take from each capsule like i was doing before.

For her very first cycle id keep her at 5 mg for 2 weeks then bump to 10 to see her tolerance, if shes good there move up to 15 mg. Since its so low of a dosage I usually run 8 weeks. just every time you move up give it 2 weeks before you increase dosage.