Thanks to Irish Cannon's help, I've cycled successfully 2x MMV2, I enjoyed it much. My leg press went from 360 to 720 in 2 months or so. Carb depletion and carb up and many other factors helped also but I'm satisfied w/my result. My biceps went from 11" to 13" and I'm just getting started. I've shredded and I'm feeling very good. Just curious if anyone has tried Halo Mass??? I was going to cycle Epistane or Furazadrol but a pro turned me on to Halo Mass and said it was the better of them. I will still cycle MMV2 because for me it worked, but I just wanted to try something new.