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    Hey ladies, I have a question for you: My girlfriend is just starting to hit the gym and do cardio to drop some bf. What would you guys suggest as the best diet for a female to drop bf? I am a male bb, so I know what's good for a male, but females don't need the massive amount of protein everyday to build and maintain muscle mass. What are your suggestions? Thanks in advance btw.

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    She would need the same amount of protein as you. 1gram of protein per 1lb of her bodyweight.

    I'm at double my bodyweight in protein to burn fat on a comp diet and keep muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    She would need the same amount of protein as you. 1gram of protein per 1lb of her bodyweight.

    I'm at double my bodyweight in protein to burn fat on a comp diet and keep muscle.
    I didn't know that. I thought the protein was just to build and maintain muscle. Being a female and all, I assumed she should just diet, do cardio, and not worry about high protein. She doesn't want any muscle, just wants to lose fat. She's not even fat or overweight to begin with, lol, but she seems to think she needs to lose weight.
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    I printed out that article asianbabe posted and gave it to her. That's a nice start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    Hey ladies, I have a question for you: My girlfriend is just starting to hit the gym and do cardio to drop some bf. What would you guys suggest as the best diet for a female to drop bf? I am a male bb, so I know what's good for a male, but females don't need the massive amount of protein everyday to build and maintain muscle mass. What are your suggestions? Thanks in advance btw.
    Just to help get you started in the right direction, here are some tips for her diet for fat loss. (These are the general guidelines that I give to my clients who are looking to lose BF (and they can be adjusted to suit muscle and strength gain, since the only difference in the two is the AMOUNT of calories that needs to be consumed); otherwise I write them a personalized diet plan (that takes into account personal preferences, allergies, etc.) to meet their needs):

    1. First, she needs to work out what her MAINTENANCE calories are (There are various methods and equations that you can use to calculate this; most take into account current body mass, height, and activity level). Then, to lose fat, she needs to make sure that she's having up to 500 calories LESS than maintenance. Depending on how fast or slow she loses the fat, she can adjust and tweak her calorie intake each week.
    2. Eat every 2-3 hours after waking. This helps keep the metabolism going throughout the day, as well as keeping insulin levels stable (so, you can see that 3 meals is simply NOT enough, even small portions).
    3. EVERY meal should have complex carbohydrates [CHO] (i.e. kumara, rice, oats, etc.), QUALITY LEAN protein (chicken breast, fish, tuna, salmon, lean beef, egg whites, etc.), and FIBROUS CHO (i.e. vegetables, green ones in particular).
    4. Drink 4.5 litres of water per day. This will help keep the system clean.
    5. It has been proven that TWO servings of DAIRY per day helps lose MORE fat than if one avoids it altogether.
    6. Do NOT avoid fat (The only fat she should be avoiding is Saturated fat and Trans fats). You NEED fat in your diet, as fat plays major roles in energy metabolism and other parts of your body (Wardlaw & Hampl, 2007). Make sure to have at least 30 grams of GOOD fats (i.e. flaxseeds or flaxseed oil, fish oils, peanut butter, nuts ? especially almonds and walnuts, hempseed oil, olive oil, etc.) per day (i.e. this is ~2 tbsp of flaxseed oil or peanut butter).
    7. Don't drink tea or coffee. Try drinking GREEN tea instead; it helps with thermogenesis, and is especially good if you take it one hour before doing cardio first thing in the morning.
    8. Don't drink alcohol. Alcohol has NO nutritional value and is full of calories.
    9. Minimize adding salt to food. Instead, flavour a meal with herbs and spices (i.e. ginger, cumin, cayenne pepper, curry powder, chilli powder, and garlic all help thermogenesis a bit).
    10. The only sugar needed on a regular basis is the NATURAL sugars found in food; these are mostly found in fruit. Too much sugar plays havoc with insulin levels and these should be as stable as possible throughout the day. The best time to be having sugar is straight AFTER a RESISTANCE workout, when the body is trying to replenish muscle glycogen stores (Burke, 2006).
    11. Do NOT avoid CHO. You NEED at least 50-100 grams of CHO per day for your body to burn fat effectively. A good guideline is to have at least 1 gram of CHO per kg of body mass per day as a MINIMUM (Burke, 2006).
    12. Eat most food as 'natural' as possible. This means fresh fruit and vegetables, meat, grains, etc. Try not to eat too much packaged food, as it is full of extra calories and sugar.
    13. Most importantly, remember that it IS OK TO CHEAT every now and then. Actually the body NEEDS cheat meals and days (1-2 a week will get results; I have 3-4 8000 calorie days, and I am only 114 pounds right now!). By throwing all the guidelines I have just mentioned above out of the way and having a day where she eats what she wants, it helps ; and it will also help prevent her body from going into starvation mode (if it does this (someone mentioned in a previous post that hers may already be like this), the body will battle her to hold onto the fat as much as it can; and that's the last thing wanted). If she prefers NOT to ?cheat?, then adding in 1-2 higher CALORIE days (i.e. go up to Maintenance, or even Bulking, or even slightly higher), with the extra calories coming from quality COMPLEX CHO, she should be ok.

    Supplements should NOT be a big deal, as most fat loss can be done through simply eating the right food at the right time. And unless everything that she's doing is already done to ensure the maximum results in the timeframe that she want to achieve it in, and then supplementation should not be the focus. However, there ARE a few supplements that I think are important to any regime:
    1. A multivitamin. (Although she should be eating as much of a variety of food as possible, in order to meet the RDI/AI of most nutrients from actual food).
    2. Creatine monohydrate. Creatine helps the body to recover faster, as well as aiding in increasing strength levels and lean body mass [LBM].
    3. Flaxseed/Hempseed/Fish Oil. This is the GOOD fats. Flaxseed or Hempseed oil is great with breakfast or in protein shakes.
    4. Protein Powder. This just helps for the in-between meals, or after the gym, and to make sure that she gets enough protein in (She should be having 1-1.5 grams of protein per kg of body mass per day; this is so that muscle loss is prevented, and can even assist in small gains in LBM).
    Apart from these 4 'base' supplements, she doesn?t need a lot, especially since sh'es just starting out. And forget about using fat-burners or thermogenics; they are a waste of time unless she's ALREADY lean (say 12-15% BF) and wants that 'extra edge' to lose the last few% bodyfat (i.e. like a fitness competitor, etc.)


    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    I didn't know that. I thought the protein was just to build and maintain muscle. Being a female and all, I assumed she should just diet, do cardio, and not worry about high protein. She doesn't want any muscle, just wants to lose fat. She's not even fat or overweight to begin with, lol, but she seems to think she needs to lose weight.
    NEVER assume. Females DON'T need to do anything differently than males when it comes to diet and exercise...And if she doesn't want any muscle, why is she going to the gym, then? Unless it's just for cardio...
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    Thanks for the replies, most of that I already told her as I do many of those things myself. For some reason I just assumed males and females require totally different programs BTW by gym I mean she's going to Curves Thanks a lot for the info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    Thanks for the replies, most of that I already told her as I do many of those things myself. For some reason I just assumed males and females require totally different programs BTW by gym I mean she's going to Curves Thanks a lot for the info!
    No worries. Most people make that same wrong assumption...Yeah, but you can still do weights at Curves. If she doesn't want to gain muscle, then resistance training WOULD make her GAIN some muscle, even a small amount. And, regardless of what she thinks or wants, resistance training is FAR MORE effective for losing fat than simply doing cardio, because of the increase in muscle (i.e. increase in metabolism; muscle burns more than fat, etc.)...Anyways, good luck to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    No worries. Most people make that same wrong assumption...Yeah, but you can still do weights at Curves. If she doesn't want to gain muscle, then resistance training WOULD make her GAIN some muscle, even a small amount. And, regardless of what she thinks or wants, resistance training is FAR MORE effective for losing fat than simply doing cardio, because of the increase in muscle (i.e. increase in metabolism; muscle burns more than fat, etc.)...Anyways, good luck to her.
    She'd probably be fine with some muscle, she just has this silly mentality that if she starts weight lifting, she will get all big and blocky looking I'll take her to my gym and show her girls who lift and she can see that they are just nice and tone, not big and jacked, lol. I hate cardio myself, so when I want to burn fat, I just do the exercise bike and alter my training program to higher reps, less rest between sets, and going from exercise to exercise for different body parts. Basically circuit training. It works great!(for me anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    She'd probably be fine with some muscle, she just has this silly mentality that if she starts weight lifting, she will get all big and blocky looking I'll take her to my gym and show her girls who lift and she can see that they are just nice and tone, not big and jacked, lol. I hate cardio myself, so when I want to burn fat, I just do the exercise bike and alter my training program to higher reps, less rest between sets, and going from exercise to exercise for different body parts. Basically circuit training. It works great!(for me anyway)
    Tell her to get over that mentality quick smart. Does she realize how HARD it is to gain muscle? And being a female, unless she's eating enough to feed an army, taking some serious steriods, and training for several years like a madman, there's no way in hell that she will gain enough to look anything "big and blocky". Take me, for example: I've been doing resistance training for the last 6-7 years, lifting hard and heavy (i.e. 220 for deadlifts, 264 for squats, 176 for bench press, 110 for shoulder press, dips and pull-ups (b/w and WITH extra weight), etc.) and often, and I am not huge by any means! Honestly, I just want to beat some SENSE into females who think like this! (yes, rant; done now)...Circuit training is excellent for fat loss (for a beginner). Just make sure that she makes it INTENSE as possible. Add in some calisthenics and plyometrics to make it harder, without having actual weights, if she's so concerned about using weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    Tell her to get over that mentality quick smart. Does she realize how HARD it is to gain muscle? And being a female, unless she's eating enough to feed an army, taking some serious steriods, and training for several years like a madman, there's no way in hell that she will gain enough to look anything "big and blocky". Take me, for example: I've been doing resistance training for the last 6-7 years, lifting hard and heavy (i.e. 220 for deadlifts, 264 for squats, 176 for bench press, 110 for shoulder press, dips and pull-ups (b/w and WITH extra weight), etc.) and often, and I am not huge by any means! Honestly, I just want to beat some SENSE into females who think like this! (yes, rant; done now)...Circuit training is excellent for fat loss (for a beginner). Just make sure that she makes it INTENSE as possible. Add in some calisthenics and plyometrics to make it harder, without having actual weights, if she's so concerned about using weights.

    I should stick your post to the door of my gym Rosie, for all the cardio queens that eat celery sticks and rice crackers, drink diet coke and wonder why they look skinny fat
    I've been lifting less than two years, I can deadlift 165 lb but I still look like a bloody matchstick
    ...oh, I forgot...AND I EAT TO THE POINT WHERE I'M SICK OF IT !!!!!
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    I must spread some rep first before giving it to you again Rosie
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    Women that actually lift a beneficial, significant amount of weight and understand that they won't look like Arnold? This must be a hoax!

    J/K It's AWESOME, keep spreading the truth about heavy-lifting for girls!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfly View Post

    I should stick your post to the door of my gym Rosie, for all the cardio queens that eat celery sticks and rice crackers, drink diet coke and wonder why they look skinny fat
    I've been lifting less than two years, I can deadlift 165 lb but I still look like a bloody matchstick
    ...oh, I forgot...AND I EAT TO THE POINT WHERE I'M SICK OF IT !!!!!
    I wish more females would wake up and smell the roses. But no, they're quite adament that cardio and endless diets will get them the body that they want (yeah, right)...I know. My strength and power ratios are pretty good for someone of my height/weight...As for females that barely eat anything. Pfft! People actually DON'T believe me when I tell them that I eat 4000+ cal/day most of the time! And, unlike you, I don't get sick of eating. Then again, I have a binge eating disorder, so sometimes it's not really me, per se...


    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Women that actually lift a beneficial, significant amount of weight and understand that they won't look like Arnold? This must be a hoax!

    J/K It's AWESOME, keep spreading the truth about heavy-lifting for girls!
    A hoax? I think not. Anybody who thinks heavy lifting is for me, etc, blah, blah, blah, needs a good kick in the arse and a dunking in the lake
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    She'd probably be fine with some muscle, she just has this silly mentality that if she starts weight lifting, she will get all big and blocky looking I'll take her to my gym and show her girls who lift and she can see that they are just nice and tone, not big and jacked, lol. I hate cardio myself, so when I want to burn fat, I just do the exercise bike and alter my training program to higher reps, less rest between sets, and going from exercise to exercise for different body parts. Basically circuit training. It works great!(for me anyway)
    Many women have that mentality that if they lift weights they will get big and bulky. It's just not going to happen because women do not have enough testosterone in their bodies for that to happen. Weight training and cardio combined is the best way for fat loss, along with a high protein diet, lots of vegetables and complex carbs. Don't forget water consumption is important. Somewhere around a gallon a day.
  

  
 

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