jpb8200
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Who does them? Doesn't matter whether you do incline, flat or decline fly's.
Do you go light or heavy?
Do they hurt your shoulders?
Do you go light or heavy?
Do they hurt your shoulders?
I disagree profoundly, but then, perhaps it's the way you're doing it: a pec deck or other isolating exercise, and my disagreement goes away.Doing flys dont really do much to your body.
this I agree with enthusiastically, but let's be clear: it's not the RC muscles that are at risk: it's the ligaments and joint capsule. Permanent damage to these & one could end up w/ a pin in one's shoulder (or something - IANAD) & severe mobility restriction.Also, dont go much past 90 degrees. People think that it stretches the pec better but its acutally just stretching the rotator cuff muscles and a lot of damage can occur.
Since I lift without a spotter, I prefer to finish off post-press w/ the flyes.Pre-exhausting a press with flys works really well.
X2 cable flyes FTW!:cheers:i dont like flyes too much, just not enough resistance at the top. i usually end my chest workouts with cable flyes. sometimes i'll do a set or two of each though
I thought the purpose of flies was to get that stretch? Anyway I go heavy and never had shoulder problems. Heavy as in 70lb dumbells
for sure, I always do em that way.I super set lighter flies with heavy presses. Burns like a mother trucker but it doesn't hurt my shoulder.
dang, I wish I would have read this topic when you originally wrote it because now I have to try this (the alternating fly) and today was chest day so I have to wait till next satI use dumbbells, and I alternate sides, working slow and focused reps. This requires considerable recruitment of muscles throughout each rep, to stabilise my body on the bench through the move. No real surprise there since the great value of free-weights is to spread recruitment beyond the target fibers & increasing neuromuscular efficiency & integration. In my case, they're helping me carve out a waist again - I consider that a lot to do for my body.
Agreed. Flyes used in conjunction with compound pressing movements for chest are, in my opinion, the best way to train the chest. I tend to save my flyes for the end of my chest routine, usually done in a superset with something like cable crossovers.I like flies... if they are done correctly and tension is kept on the chest (not going all the way up and resting). Also, I agree that a person shouldn't make it a habit to go super low on flies. 90 deg, or just a tad lower should be plenty.
Shakes! whats up buddy? SFW_SFW from bn... nice to see a fellow bn poster on here.I like flies... if they are done correctly and tension is kept on the chest (not going all the way up and resting). Also, I agree that a person shouldn't make it a habit to go super low on flies. 90 deg, or just a tad lower should be plenty.
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