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HST for me, can i handle the sets?

  1.  07-26-2003  11:06 AM
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    I guess it cant hurt to try huh? Although on some exercises for those first few workouts, I think my pride might be hurt a little



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    I hear that, but if anyone says anything to me I'll just turn and scream "THE SKY IS FALLING AND JUMP TO THE FLOOR" they won't bug me again, lmfao

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    well the theory behind HST is progressive load, throwing your body out of whack; thats why you do the 15reps in the first 2 wks, 10reps in the next 2 wks, 5 reps in the next 2 wks, then 5s again or negatives, etc

    i prolly don't know what i'm talking about hehe

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    Originally posted by Cruehead
    I was thinking about trying HST out but whats holding me back is the fact that most of the weeks arent "working sets" ie if your 15 rep max for squats is 200, whats the point of only doing 180 for 15. I guess I come from the school of thought that muscles need to be worked harder than what theyre accustomed to. How is working them at a weight less than what their potential is, going to benefit. Ive read through the site and must be missing something. Could anyone explain to me in plain 3rd grade english how this works? Ive read the success stories and all so it must work. I would just like to understand the "how"
    It a tough mentality to get past, I know, but give it a real try and you wont be disapointed. I guess you could sum everything up by the progressive load principle and not giving the muscle a chance to adapt to the stresses that are being put on it.

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    Didnt read much of this, but if you're having trouble recovering drop any double set exercises. I would do that every so often that the training was catching up on me.

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    If you have a good look around the HST site you`ll find everything you need in order to setup up a HST Programme.
    ALL of the questions which have been posted here are answered there by people who have experience with HST.
    You just have read.

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    Hey custom, one question for you. During the one week of strategic deconditioning, do you do cardio or do you actually just lay around

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    Id do it longer than 1 week. I do two weeks. No training whatsoever since my legs get muscular training from running.

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    Hmmm, I'll prolly do a week, 2 weeks off would kill me, but thanks for the advice.

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    yes i always found i started losing a lot more weight after 2 weeks vs 1 week

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    I have never claimed that a period of Strategic Deconditioning lasting 7-12 days would completely revert your muscles to an "untrained" state. I have spoken frequently of the rapid training effect or repeated bout effect. Some protection seems to last for a very long time. Still, 7-12 days of complete rest does appear to cause some reversal of the adaptations to training. And from the application, it appears it is sufficient to allow one to start growing again, once gains have stopped with a given weight. Hopefully through the forum and other articles and interviews people have come to learn that SD is more than just a break from training.

    -Bryan Haycock

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    Yea, I understand, and I was thinking about this. I'm guessing you're alot bigger (musclewise, not fatwise ) than me, and with this alot stronger, so it's gonna take longer for you to recovery than my pathetic ass

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    Originally posted by goin_big
    Hey custom, one question for you. During the one week of strategic deconditioning, do you do cardio or do you actually just lay around
    Personally, i do cardio, but that is because I can gain weight just looking at food. If you choose to do cardio, keep it light and every other day.

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    Yea, I gain weight easy to and wanted to cardio, thanks for the input. I just wanted to make sure I could do cardio during that week

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    well i started on friday and its monday; after this latest tweak it was HARD to finish but i did finish and i've gained 12lbs in the past 5 weeks going natty
    yay

    only 5 more lbs to go and i'll hit a fina/test/dbol cycle

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    well dang, this thread progressed fast. would have added some but custom said pretty much everything (nice info bro!). will say that I too would endorse the program and enjoy being on it, I like the idea as well as the execution.

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    Biggs- whats your opinion on my question regarding most of the workouts in HST not being "working sets" and it providing benefit if your lifting at your full potential. Do you guys think HST would be good for on cycle?

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    i think it would be great, i'd add a tad more volume tho if on cycle; its what i plan to do unless i learn otherwise

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    Bean, I know what you mean about hst gonna kick my ass now. I've been doing some circuit training just to get my body ready for it and I can already tell that even with light weight this is gonna be fun On a good note, that just means it's gonna work though

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    yeah it kicked my ass; my body is recovering quickly tho; i guess its because of the decreased amount of sets or something

    i had to move squats down the workout order, because squats totally exhaust my body; i do slow sets and my heart is pumping after those two sets like i just ran two miles... very tiring

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