Shoulder Help

[nd22121]

ok, i have been lifting seriously for a few years now and i just got done a very sucessful epi cycle in my opinion. i have one problem though, my shoulders. no matter what i do and how much i eat i cant seem to put any mass or strength on. i believe that my diet is good because i notice differences in all other muscle groups, so maybe it is in my training regimen. i am not sure which delt is lacking but my shoulders dont bulge out from the sides like i want them to, so i assume it is my medial deltoid. are there any suggestions as to how i should attack the shoulders or any workouts that have been very sucessful for anyone in the past.
please be specific with any suggestions

thanks a lot in advance

[ITHURTZ]

My shoulder workout

BB overhead
db overhead
side db raises
rear pec deck. See profile pic for rear bi shoulder pics.

[nd22121]

thanks for the reply. how do you side raises? do you keep your arms straight and you less weight or do you bend the elbow a little and bend at the waist?

thanks

[ITHURTZ]

I keep a slight bend in the elbow, dont bend at the waist though.

[nd22121]

ok thanks a lot

[Bull Mkt]

Arnolds!!!

[TripDog]

Ahhh i love shoulders and my best body part......this is my routine

-seated military press in smith
-upright rows in smith
-side lat raises standing
-seated bentover raises
-seated front raises
-shruggs(high rep) DB

[larue38462]

I like to do drop sets with the cables for side raises. I usually put these somewhere in the middle of the workout, but when I get done w/ them my shoulders are screamin and pumped to the max.

[Xodus]

I'm not a huge fan of Thibaudeau, but I like the 'Muscle Clean Push Press'.

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