Shoulder help

[quigley]

i cant seem to get them to grow.

With a tough workout i get soreness in every muscle of my body except my shoulders. ive tried supersets, low volume, high volume...i just cant seem to hit them, make them hurt, or make them grow. I mean they burn when im working them out, but the next day i have no soreness and their not growing, while my other body parts respond well.

Any advice?

[KingMeso]

Shoulders are a huge part of most all upper body exercises. What does your shoulder workout look like?

[quigley]

usual exercises include: Military press, seated press, lateral raises, upright rows, front raises

Usually 2-3 exercises per workout, 3 sets per exercise 8-10 reps, till failure usually.

Ive tried supersetting, partials, and HST

[PumpingIron]

Whats your entire routine look like? I can already see some things you might want to do to work your weak point (delts) but if you post up the rest, it would make it easier.

[quigley]

Ok... at the moment im trying HST. Lifting as heavy as possible for 10 reps each set.

Monday- Squats 1X10/failure
Lunges 1x10
Calf raises- 2x10
Wide overhandgrip chins- Failure
Seated row- 2x10
Bench press- 2x10
Incline Bench- 1x10
Military press 1x10
Upright row 1x10
Eccentric bicep curls- 2x10
Dips- Failure
Tricep pulldowns 1x10
Fitball crunches- 20

Run through all of this in abour 45 minutes- an hour. Try to progress every week. Same sort of routine wed and friday, some exercises interchanged for others targeting the same muscle...eg lat pull down for wide grip chins, just to keep variety.

[ITHURTZ]

My shoulders grow really well All I ever do is

Seated barbell, seated dumbell, side raises and rear flies. If you aint growing eat and lift harder. I only do 3-4 sets at 7 rep max.

Shoulder routine for me usually goes something like this
SB
135x10
185x7
205x7
225x whatever I get

sd
80x7
85x7
90x7
95x6

dumbell side raises
25x7
30x7
30x7

then hit the rear pec deck and finish off the rears

[PumpingIron]

That routine is done 3 times a week, correct?

[KingMeso]

My shoulders grow really well All I ever do is

Seated barbell, seated dumbell, side raises and rear flies. If you aint growing eat and lift harder. I only do 3-4 sets at 7 rep max.

Shoulder routine for me usually goes something like this
SB
135x10
185x7
205x7
225x whatever I get

superdrol
80x7
85x7
90x7
95x6

dumbell side raises
25x7
30x7
30x7

then hit the rear pec deck and finish off the rears

superdrol? Is that 80mg 7x a day?!?!?!

[PumpingIron]

superdrol? Is that 80mg 7x a day?!?!?!

the auto correct feature... S+D= SD, A+A+S=AAS, etc.

[quigley]

That routine is done 3 times a week, correct?

yep, 3 times

[KingMeso]

the auto correct feature... S+D= superdrol, A+A+S=anabolic steroids, etc.

I know, it just looked funny.

[ITHURTZ]

superdrol wtf? Why in the hell did I type that? I ment seated dumbell. I was reading the superdrol ng or whatever page, oops.