[Doubravkody]

How do ya get em?
Right now, im doin rufly only 60 crunches and 60 situps a night
but doing my push ups, and other arm muscles that require balance an tightness i notice my abs working, but is their anything in particular I should do to get real defined nice abs, besides sit ups/ crunches?
or should I just do more of them?
Right now my abs arnt bad but their not real defined, and really their only not bad because im a scrawny mo fo.
Any suggestions I'd appreciate

[Rodja]

Diet and cardio. Your abs are not seen until you have a low bodyfat %.

[EasyEJL]

bb.com has a nice roundup of articles right now about abs

[Doubravkody]

well my abs are seen, and i do have a low body ft %
im jus wonderen how you see those guys that are built, their heavy, and they still have real defined abs?

[SteelEntity]

if it takes cutting down to the point of where your ribs are bulging out to see your abs then you simply need to build up the muscle, just like everything else. The muscle you have the easier it is to stay cut and defined.

[Ubiquitous]

I built mine with high rep and high frequency.. now I just work abs a few times a week if that. Prior to this maintenence, I was on a mission with my core.. YOu can definitely train abs every day and produce good results. Keep with it.. patience... then diet.

[rpen22]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous

I built mine with high rep and high frequency.. now I just work abs a few times a week if that. Prior to this maintenence, I was on a mission with my core.. YOu can definitely train abs every day and produce good results. Keep with it.. patience... then diet.

How many exercises would you do per day when you were building? Were they all bodyweight exercises or did you use weighted also?

[Ubiquitous]

I did an absurb amount of crunches and leg raises/side raises per day. To balance out I did hypers. All BW... once in a while I'd do weighted cable crunches.. but not so often.

[PumpingIron]

There are two main factors, muscle size and body fat.

Building them up is good, but be careful of over training. They are a smaller muscle group so you can train them much more often.

I personally had the same approach as Ubi. I did BW exercises daily. There was a point in my life when I did 1000 crunches every other day. But I was stupid then.

But some people have stellar abs without even working them and just using them as stabalizers during big lifts.

Nowadays I think a moderate approach is best. I do one exercises every training session untilizing my abs directly. I usually shoot for about 48 to 125 total reps, depending on the exercise. Hanging Leg Raises, Decline Crunches, Swiss ball Hyper extending crunches, V-Ups, and bench crunches/leg bends are my exercises of choice nowadays..

But the biggest thing to remember is to really concentrate on the muscle throughout each and every rep.

[Ubiquitous]

^^ word... my thoughts exactly.

[rpen22]

I really just need to build mine right now. I'm not at a low body fat percentage right now and don't expect to see them, but I will be when I diet back down for competition. Thanks for the tips guys.

[MakaveliThaDon]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous

I did an absurb amount of crunches and leg raises/side raises per day. To balance out I did hypers. All BW... once in a while I'd do weighted cable crunches.. but not so often.

You should really work your abs with weight more. Not just once in a while. IMO it should be the bulk of your ab work. Your abs ARE a muscle, why wouldn't you train them like one? I mean to work your biceps you wouldn't stand and do 100 unweighted curls would you? Same goes for abs IMO.

[PumpingIron]

Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon

You should really work your abs with weight more. Not just once in a while. IMO it should be the bulk of your ab work. Your abs ARE a muscle, why wouldn't you train them like one? I mean to work your biceps you wouldn't stand and do 100 unweighted curls would you? Same goes for abs IMO.

Smaller muscle groups are tricky. I see calves being the same way...

One way is to work them more often with lower weight, i.e, BW exercises.

Another way is to work them less often with weighted exercises.

Although, I feel that I get a better workout doing hanging leg raises than I do with pretty much any weighted exercise.

[MakaveliThaDon]

Originally Posted by PumpingIron

Although, I feel that I get a better workout doing hanging leg raises than I do with pretty much any weighted exercise.

I combine the two, and do WEIGHTED hanging leg raises, lol

[PumpingIron]

Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon

I combine the two, and do WEIGHTED hanging leg raises, lol

how do you do that? sounds cool, but do you attach ankle weights or what? just seems hard to balance a dumbbell for these...

[jminis]

Originally Posted by PumpingIron

how do you do that? sounds cool, but do you attach ankle weights or what? just seems hard to balance a dumbbell for these...

Ankle weights or small med balls which bring in even more core muslces and also adductors.