Shrugs with Back or Shoulders?
- 05-18-2007, 01:14 PM
- 05-18-2007, 01:42 PM
They're technically a back muscle...upper traps. Once I started doing heavy deads, my traps blew up, so I completely stopped doing any shrugs.
To answer your questions...I used to do them with back.
05-18-2007, 01:53 PM
My shoulder day would be pretty short without them and my back day would be packed...
They fit into my routine better on delt day.
05-18-2007, 07:27 PM
05-19-2007, 12:53 AM
Leg day. I give alot on shoulders and dont feel im gettin enough out of shrugs on back or shoulder days casue i put so much in. So i give alot on leg day to, but....it had really nothing directly to do wiht them except settin weight there.
Smith Calf raises
Done. short intense day.
05-19-2007, 05:16 PM
I like them on my back day. As others have said, they are a back muscle.
Bent over raises
05-19-2007, 05:21 PM
I do them with shoulders too...4 day split...
Mon - Chest/Tri
Tue - Back/Bi
Thu - Legs
Fri - Shoulders/Traps/Neck
05-19-2007, 06:29 PM
I used to switch them off and on, sometimes back, sometimes shoulders. Now if I see them lagging Ill do shoulders. But like Crunch says about The Dead-lift. Once Heavy Deads started traps seem to need not much work or none at all.
Right now Im pulling 405 conventional.
Currently doing a sumo-stance (first time ever) routine for six weeks.
and yes technically traps are back.
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05-21-2007, 10:29 AM
05-21-2007, 11:34 AM
05-21-2007, 10:47 PM
I feel after a good back day my traps are slightly warm and raring for a nice bout of heavy shrugs (on the plate loaded shrug machine thing.) I also feel that doing heavy shrugs after a backworkout really puts my grip strength to the test and can really feel it the next days in not just my traps but my forearms.
Also I feel like my traps get enough work during a shoulder workout on there own and dont need to be worked on a shoulder day.
05-21-2007, 11:02 PM
05-22-2007, 08:44 PM
05-23-2007, 01:51 AM
05-23-2007, 02:05 AM
Both for me, but indirectly. They are hit on back day by deadlifts and delt day by cleans.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
05-23-2007, 03:20 AM
I personally like to switch it up. I try and switch my routine up every few weeks. Right now I have it with shoulders, when I change stuff up ill do them with back for the next few weeks.
I also agree with heavy deads, you will really feel them the next day after doing those!
05-23-2007, 10:26 AM
I used to do them every delt w/o, but now I get them in maybe once a month.
I get a lot of weird looks at the gym
05-23-2007, 10:33 AM
05-23-2007, 10:45 AM
05-23-2007, 11:00 AM
General consensus...Back muscle...could be done either day.
Most people decide which due to time and the way the feel on either day...?..?...?
05-23-2007, 12:58 PM
Just my 2 cents. My back day(thursday) is way too jammed to do this:dl: , so I use it on my shoulder day along with:
Side, front and rear laterals
05-23-2007, 12:59 PM
05-23-2007, 01:35 PM
05-24-2007, 12:30 AM
05-24-2007, 12:50 AM
Here's an idea, train them with forearms! Just kidding. I do them with shoulders, if at all. Traps get trained ALOT for me with dead lifts. Shrugs are fun to do, though. Whatever you do, don't do forearms the day before, if you isolate them that is. Your grip will be nil.
05-24-2007, 12:52 AM
05-24-2007, 09:10 AM
05-24-2007, 12:05 PM
Start off fairly light (like any new movement) and try it out!
Prepare for the stares!!! LOL
"Is he doing abs???"
05-24-2007, 04:57 PM
I guess actually, you COULD give forearms their own day if you wanted. I once did a split where I had a forearms/traps/abs/calves day. Just little parts, you know.
In short, ignore my stupid post.
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