German Volume Training
- 12-07-2010, 11:46 AM
- 12-24-2010, 09:09 AM
06-15-2011, 03:26 PM
7 month bump
Couldn't decide to bump or create a new thread for this question: for those that have done GVT and Gironda's 8x8 system (or know what it is)....opinions? results?
06-15-2011, 03:46 PM
Some people find their level of maximal strength drops a little bit once they finish the mesocycle, of course this will come back and then some when you move back into an intensification phase.
I like constructive comments on routines. One big thing with GVT feedback on forums is so many people change it and make it sound like they are still doing the same routine. The rep and set structure, exercise selection and rest periods are like that for a reason.
I have seen people doing two chest exercises both on 5 x 10 instead of one exercise for 10 x 10. Single muscle workouts rather than antagonistic pairing, completely changing the five day microcycle, all sorts of alterations.
To quote Poliquin, it is like putting blueberries in an apple pie and still calling it an apple pie, it just isn't true.
From a personal perspective, I gained mass on GVT. It was effective without a doubt. I just find the programme so boring to stick with, I didn't look forward to going to the gym as much and by the third workout I was already anxious to change it because it was getting tedious. That is psychological feedback though. If I wanted to put mass on quickly, I would be happy to use it again.
06-15-2011, 05:31 PM
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06-15-2011, 05:40 PM
06-15-2011, 05:41 PM
06-15-2011, 05:48 PM
06-16-2011, 07:47 PM
Everything I found involves supersets in the programme except one sentence which implies straight sets is a possibility. Here it is "When bodybuilders start with this method, they often question its value for the first several sets because the weight won't feel heavy enough. However, there is minimal rest between sets (about 60 seconds when performed in sequence and 90-120 seconds when performed as a superset), which incurs cumulative fatigue"
So, in theory you could do it in straight sets. Personally I would be very surprised if Charles still said this as there reasons behind antagonistic supersetting including decreasing the drop off curve on both exercises.
If you have the option, I would say do it as written. I have done GVT in commercial gyms and would use one piece of equipment for both exercises i.e., dumbbell bench press and dumbbell chest supported rows.
I hope this helps.
06-17-2011, 02:41 PM
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