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  1. Thumbs up Iron Addict!


    He is currently training me (from animal kits board). A+ for him! I only lift 3 days a week and hell the most volume I see is two sets. If you guys need a good trainer I recommend him fully.

    He has a mix of normal work sets as well as rest pause method, and if you havent learned about rest pause yet then i suggest you go to animalkits.be and research a thread called cycles on pennies by doggcrapp.. great read!
    PharmD

  2. Nelson
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    LakeMountD
    As you know I`ve been reading up on IA & DC`s methods.
    If you don`t mind, can you tell me:
    Which exercises are you doing the Rest Pause with?
    Are you doing 6-10 negatives like DC recommends?
    Thanks for any help.
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  3. i just read all 85+ pages





























    j/k that's a HYOOOGE thread

  4. he recommends 2-5 second negatives.. and it depends on the person as to what exercises you do RP with.. and i dont necessarily want to give away my exact schedule out of respect for him.. he doesnt do things exactly like DC but i mean a lot of it is close.. DC sometimes gets a little extreme, forgetting that he has freaky genetics.. his ideas however are right on.
    PharmD

  5. I agree Lake, please keep his training info to yourself. Respect the fact that the man trains people for a living, and it is his livelyhood.
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  6. Nelson
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    Originally posted by LakeMountD
    he recommends 2-5 second negatives.. and it depends on the person as to what exercises you do RP with.. and i dont necessarily want to give away my exact schedule out of respect for him.. he doesnt do things exactly like DC but i mean a lot of it is close.. DC sometimes gets a little extreme, forgetting that he has freaky genetics.. his ideas however are right on.
    Thanks LakeMountD.
    I didn`t expect you to post the entire workout.
    I was just seeking some info about it.
    I will be sending my money to Iron Addict in about 3-4 weeks, so I`m not looking for a free ride.
    Thanks for the insight.

    Pinoy
    I have also read the whole thread & cut n` pasted parts of it for future reference.
    Definitely well worth the read.

  7. Bump for Iron Addict, DoggCrapp and Silverback. All three of these guys know about training. And as far as diet check out SwoleCat, the man has it down.
  8. Nelson
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    Originally posted by LCSULLA
    Bump for Iron Addict, DoggCrapp and Silverback. All three of these guys know about training. And as far as diet check out SwoleCat, the man has it down.
    I`ll second that.
    I`ve been on SwoleCat`s diet for 4 weeks & I`m leaner than I`ve ever been.
    Plus my strength has improved a little.

  9. BUMP! And I will keep bumping this to the head of the line until I think some of these buck 50 guys stop doing super sets and really start training.
  10. Nelson
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    LCSCULLA
    Are you being trained by DC, IA or SB?

  11. Right now I am using Swoles Training with SGX. But in about 10-12 weeks I am going to start using SB's methods but DC's ideas on protein and fat consumption. I choose SB because his focus is more strength and then size. I am trying to be about 205-210 at around 7-9% BF at 5'8-5'9 with freaky strength. What about you?

    OH yeah and BUMP for IA, SB, DC and Swole!

  12. do you guys follow dc's diet guidelines? getting 2g protein/per lb bodyweight and cutting off carbs after 5? i think he also combines fats and carbs in the same meal
    Last edited by pinoy; 06-04-2003 at 03:23 PM.

  13. Not right now. I follow Swole's program SGX. But in about three months I will switch over to Silverbacks training methods and DC/Swoles diet guidelines.

    BUMP for IA, SB, DC and Swole.
  14. Nelson
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    Originally posted by LCSULLA
    Right now I am using Swoles Training with SGX. But in about 10-12 weeks I am going to start using SB's methods but DC's ideas on protein and fat consumption. I choose SB because his focus is more strength and then size. I am trying to be about 205-210 at around 7-9% BF at 5'8-5'9 with freaky strength. What about you?

    OH yeah and BUMP for IA, SB, DC and Swole!
    I`m currently on Day 32 of SwoleGenix - Swoles cutting program.
    I plan to finish SwoleGenix at the end of June.
    Ideally I`d like to start training with IA in July, but I`m moving from here (Japan), back to Australia in late July which will make it difficult.
    Maybe I will have to wait until I get settled into life in Australia, around early August to get started with IA.



  15. swole just posted a new picture at AU.....jacked! His hard work and dedication alone are remarkable. I know a lot of people who went through his program...and if you want a free consoltation, post some recipes at AU hehe

    SC is the man...I don't know much about the other guys, except for SB, but I've only heard of benefits from going through their programs

  16. Nelson: Hooking up with IA will do a lot in helping you gain. I mean look at LakeMD he started at 164 and now 6-7 weeks later is about to break 180. Plus his fees and the deal are really good.

    Motley: I like to think of IA falling in between SB and DC. DC is strength /size with extreme training, while SB is hard core as well but focuses more on strength then size (though you will get bigger using his programs). But all three are solid and would adjust your training to fit your goals. This is how I see them and they might not agree with me

  17. Bump a Bump, Bump BUUUMMMPPP

  18. "Supersetting my life away....." BWHAAAAA

  19. i'm going to try dc's training method next week, can't wait!!!

  20. I've been working with Swole, for a few months now, and he knows his ****, I've never been happier with my rate of success
  21. Nelson
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    BUMP for Swole
    If you want lean mass (SwoledUp), or want to cut without losing lean mass (SwoleGenix) - go to swolecat.com & check out the forums for some feedback from people who are having lots of success with his programs.

  22. And don't forget HIT training, Nelson It has packed mass on many frames over the years. IA, DC and SB are well-versed on putting on a lot of mass in a short amount of time. Why the average pearson would train any other way is beyond me
  23. Nelson
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    Right on


    Originally posted by LCSULLA
    And don't forget HIT training, Nelson It has packed mass on many frames over the years. IA, DC and SB are well-versed on putting on a lot of mass in a short amount of time. Why the average pearson would train any other way is beyond me
    I have dabbled in HIT / abbreviated training before in the past, with limited success.
    But I feel that was due to overtraining.
    Since starting it again I feel like I`m starting to find my ideal recovery time between workouts whilst being able to maintain progress
    I feel that a lot of people who dismiss it don`t follow or understand the principles correctly.

  24. Your right, you have to see what works for you. And don't see any results because they don't work hard enough ie: they stop short of failure.

  25. Yes but training to failure has disadvantages not advantages. Do you need to shovel dirt until you can't do it anymore to make muscle? NOOOOO all you need is progressive overload of intensity, do things a little more intensely then before.

    This is done by shortening rest periods the next workout, adding weight with same reps, or adding reps with the same weight
    The close you go to failure means the more cortisol you release and the more you train you overtrain your nervous system and the more you train your nervous system to actually learn to FAIL! Now granted you don't want to be too far from failure either because intensity is about how heavy of a weight your using so if your doing a weight you can do for a 8 reps and its still like 7 reps from OSTIVE failure chances are that weight is way too light and not something tat will stimulate muscle growth from the start in the fast twitch fibers. As long as your using a moderate to heavy weight 1 to 3 reps short of failure(meaning stopping when you know only do 1 to 3 reps more in good full range of motion and in fairly good form for that set) is all that is necessary, then the next workout you add weights or reps(preferably weight that is slightly better for adding intensity) and there is the progressive intensity that your muscles need to adapt to grow!

  26. Can you explain a little more about how you train Bee? And what is your height and BW?
    Last edited by LCSULLA; 06-08-2003 at 10:16 PM.

  27. Well ive done a lot of reading on the issue lately and just started to switch in the last week to doing my sets about 1 to 2 reps short of failure mostly(meaning ill stop when i know i can do 1 to 2 more reps in the set with good form) but i do real short workouts.

    Actually i got the link of the routine im using, it was posted by tkarrde on this page but it seems pretty logical and decent so far.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...g&pagenumber=5

    Anyways look at tkarrde's post for his workout.

    Another thing what i like about his workout is every muscle is worked every 4 to 5 days and there is evidence that certain growth factors, etc are stopped after 2or 3 days so why go a whole 4 days afterwards of doing nothing?? ITs better to lower the volume and hit it more frequently, this allows slightly less strength gains but more muscle gains instead supposedly.


    Heres a good interesting read, i recommend you read the whole thing,its about NOT training to failure even on abreviated routines.

    http://www.cbass.com/KevinDye.htm

  28. I glanced over the article from C. Bass and it does have merits. But many HIT traniees do cycle their progams. DoggCrapp advocates 4 weeks bull-busting work then two weeks of less, even on gear. Many of the trainers I have mentioned have had a great deal of success with HIT. LAkemountD went from 164 to 180 in about 7 weeks under Iron Addict and he had already been lifting for about 2-3 years. Just read some of their stuff and it will open your eyes.
    When I was 17-18 I did the Volume work
    (15 sets for chest) and now 14 years later I know how to train a better way
  29. Nelson
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    IMO cycling of intensity is key.
    IA & many others such as Stuart McRobert advocate this.
    That way you don`t blast the CNS by going to failure every workout & you can continue to make steady gains without overtraining.
    Just my 2 cents.

  30. yes even this guy mentions cycling intensity and so does hardgainer.com but i still feel that going to positive failure is unnecessary and does more damage then good, but im not expert it just seems more logical to me. I think for long term its better just to stay a rep or 2 if you can on average because youll make steadier gains longer and plateau less quick. Once again failure is not necessary at all for muscle growth and it seems to do a lot of harm and no good, even if there is any good from it the negatives are A LOT so why bother....
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