- 12-30-2006, 11:45 PM
- 12-31-2006, 12:43 AM
The primary danger to the knee occurs when the tissues of the calf and thigh press together altering the center of rotation back to the contact area creating a dislocation effect. The danger of knee injury in this situation may be prevented if either of the following factor are present:
* center of gravity of the body system is keep forward of the altered center of rotation
* muscles of the thigh are strong enough to prevent the body from resting or bouncing on the calves.
12-31-2006, 01:46 PM
What is your goal? If you are a powerlifter, you must go to parallel.
However, if you are going to quad size and BBing, I would say go about 90% to parallel. This will keep the tension on the quads. I dont remember where it was, but I heard Markus Ruhl is a big fan of quarter squats. Im sure he goes a lot closer to parallel most of the time, but that proves that you can squat effectively w/o always going to parallel.
01-05-2007, 08:40 AM
Thanks for that link, ItsHectic. It's pretty detailed, but I don't quite understand it. I would still like to get Dr. John's opinion.Originally Posted by ItsHectic
01-05-2007, 08:44 AM
i'd assume it varies.. when im just lifting i go parallel... when im doing my powerlifting routine i go from parallel to past parallel... high box or low box squats
01-05-2007, 08:50 AM
If you want to hit glutes as well go a$$ to the grass. If you have knee issues don't do this. Going to 90 is a safe bet.
01-05-2007, 08:54 AM
i think a lot of guys in the gym go for maximum weight not realising that squatting 3-4 inches won't do bugger all, but they think it looks good. Parallel should yield reuslts....and dont look down!
01-05-2007, 01:18 PM
You should base it on what feels natural for your body. For myself, I like going "ass to grass"....I can feel it more in my quads and glutes. Not sure if anyone else has this issue, but when I stop short of parallel, my knees actually hurt more.
I've seen tall lanky guys try to go "ass to grass", but their body simply won't allow them to do so. Bottom line is to see what works best for you.
12-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Any opinions on this? I'm 6'4 and have always had problems doing deep squats. I feel a pain in my knee right above my kneecap if I go more than about half way down. Is there anything wrong with going down only halfway? Halfway definitely feels more natural for me.:squat:
12-15-2008, 06:21 PM
12-15-2008, 06:28 PM
You guys have to sit back and not down, your shins should be perpendicular to the ground throughout the squat. Make sure you are breaking at the hips and first and not the knees. Try box squatting for a while, it will teach you to sit back and it will also take some pressure off of your knees.
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12-15-2008, 06:40 PM
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12-16-2008, 02:28 AM
I believe in "A$$ to grass" squats as long as they are controlled, and slow with no bouncing motion. Our coaches in HS prefered bounching when hitting the bottom of the rep, which to them translated to "explosiveness' on the field. Many people including my self had messed up knees b/c we followed the coaches and didnt know better. Now ive been all healed up, I still believe in a$$ to grass squats but very slow, and controlled.
For all of ya'll with tall man syndrome like ihave had in the past,.... You could try a brief pause when reaching the bottom, to build knee strength and help control the impulse of leaning forward. I usually squat all the way down, pause for 3-4 seconds then press up. Since I started doin it this way, .. my leg mass and strength has soared above unbelievable. Then add in some high rep leg presses
12-16-2008, 10:19 AM
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12-16-2008, 02:50 PM
as long as its not "sumo deadlift" wide lol, you'll be fine. only thing i had to get used to was the angle of my legs, as i would get weird stretch pains to the left and right of my groin, at the hip area. These were caused basically from my body not used to going a$$ to grass at a wider stance than usual, but the flexiblilty came in after a couple workouts, to were i can go just as low with a wider stance, as I could with a narrow stance. Get used to the stance, then add in 3 second pauses at bottom,..... woooo,... 3 reps of those will make you feel like you just did a 20 rep superset
12-17-2008, 09:39 AM
12-18-2008, 02:19 AM
they say go parallel in general
some of the tougher guys go further... i recon its bs if you dont go at least parallel
some people do think going too low... like all the way down can be bad for you... some dont
as long as you're going parallel to the ground you're fine
heaps of guys at my gym stack up heavy weights and go 1/4ththe way down or 1/3rd... talk about cheating!
12-18-2008, 04:20 AM
figured id chime in since im pretty tall...6ft4..i weigh 205 an squat 225 for 12 reps no prob....ive always been pretty flexible so i go all the way down til i touch my calves with my hamstrings....i think flexibilty has a lot to do with how deep you can go....i never ceases to amaze me how many people at most gyms cant squat...i usually get a ton of stares an then the occasional jack ass who after im done tries to do the same thing with the same weight.....most cant do 1 true rep with 225....and its sad when u watch guys throw 3plates on an bend there knees slightly an call it squatting.....if someone bench pressed with the same technique everyone would laugh but when it comes to squatting its like its acceptable....I think people dont understand its a hard exercise to preform....it sure aint curling or benching...
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12-18-2008, 04:37 AM
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12-18-2008, 10:34 PM
If you are free of injury, there should be no problem in going down to parallel. And, if not an advanced lifter, no real need to go down below parallel. There may or may not be any benefit in going a$$ to grass, but if you are reasonably new to serious squatting parallel is sufficient.
12-18-2008, 10:45 PM
Speaking of squats! ITS GYM TIME! Just gulped down my shake and its time to go!
Hopefully I can do the same weight as last time with a bit more easy! tiny gains add up and make me
12-19-2008, 12:14 AM
earthdog, if you have some money I recommend you buy [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-2nd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0976805421/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid =1229659614&sr=1-2"]Starting Strength (2nd Edition)[/ame], it has a solid chapter on the squat. I haven't finished reading it, but I've learned the proper stance for squatting and am starting with light weights to get my form in place. So far so good, no injuries and I get an awesome workout, and yes it is hard but very rewarding. I'm up to 135 for 20 reps :squat:
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