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Old 05-14-2003, 08:22 PM   #1
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What exercises do you guys do for shoulders? Just tryin to get a few new ones to add to my current routine
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 01:37 AM   #2
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1.Lateral raises (with cables or free weights)
2.Military presses
3.Dumbell presses
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 01:59 AM   #3
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front military press
arnolds
db press
front and side lat raise superset
behind neck press machine
cuban rotations
front bar raises
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 09:29 AM   #4
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i've heard that behind the neck motions are bad for your neck...anyone else hear that?
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 11:10 AM   #5
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ive heard that too. my gym has a behind nck press machine. its hammer. the grips are positiond to immitate bnp without all the pressure of the bar on your neck.
 
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i've heard that behind the neck motions are bad for your neck...anyone else hear that?
i dont know about the neck specifically but bnp put your shoulder in an unnatural position. it contributed to a rotator cuff tear for me leading to surgery. so i never, ever do any behind the neck exercise, including bnp lat pull downs. i do mil presses, db presses, arnold presses.

dont forget the rear delts...
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 02:24 PM   #7
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cuban rotations
db shoulder press
lateral raises
bent over laterals
shrugs
upright rows
 
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Old 05-15-2003, 10:45 PM   #8
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hang cleans
 
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Old 05-16-2003, 09:25 AM   #9
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clean and press
heavy upright rows (10-6-4 repitition)
push press
one set each of DB side/front/rear delt laterals with 20-30 second plate "wheelies" at end of each set.

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i actually really like any kinda clean for shoulders, but i've been partial to O lifts lately, cuz there really helping me build explosiveness, which helps with powerlifting also. dont know if ur pure bber, or like me a power bb'er, but if u r like me, u will definitely love the O lifts, especially cleans for shoulders, of course most cleans work more than just shoulders though.
 
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Damn I hate strength hammer machines

Arnold , Military , Cleans and Dumbell Presses, compound all the way baby!
 
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Old 05-17-2003, 02:40 AM   #12
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i dont know about the neck specifically but bnp put your shoulder in an unnatural position. it contributed to a rotator cuff tear for me leading to surgery. so i never, ever do any behind the neck exercise, including bnp lat pull downs. i do mil presses, db presses, arnold presses.

dont forget the rear delts...
I injured my rotator cuff exactly like this. Took a long time to heal; but at least did not require surgery. I no longer do behind the neck press, and in fact, don't go real heavy on regular military press. I like some hammer strength machines better than others. If I was going to do behind the neck press, it would only be on a machine like the one destro uses.

Shoulders do not need a lot of sets, and can be overtrained more easily than any other muscle group. But you have to hit the delts from every angle, so just drop the number of total sets, and warm up thoroughly to prevent rotator cuff injury. A lot of pros, like Jeff Everson have totally detroyed their rotator cuff integrity from years of doing heavy benches and military presses.

I do:

lateral raises for middle delt
bent over laterals for rear delt (overlooked by many as msclbldrguy pointed out.)
military press for front delt

I do 3 sets of 10 reps and sometimes 4 sets for rear delts. I do military press last, after I have warmed up thoroughly, as this movement is the hardest on rotators. And if I run out of steam, or feel a bit sore, I skip the press, as the front delts are engaged by a lot of other exercises, like dips and incline press, so they never seem to lag as much as rear delts.
 
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Old 05-17-2003, 02:44 AM   #13
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Depends for me for awhile I was doing power cleans now that i changed my program for heavy bench I just do laterial raise on the light days I do shoulder press and laterial raises.
 
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Old 05-17-2003, 11:16 AM   #14
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you guys should add 2-3 sets of cuban rotations, very good exercise for the rotator cuffs to keep your shoulders healthy
 
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Old 05-17-2003, 04:22 PM   #15
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you guys should add 2-3 sets of cuban rotations, very good exercise for the rotator cuffs to keep your shoulders healthy
Excuse my ignorance, but what is this excercise? i've never heard of it.
 
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is this excercise? i've never heard of it.
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exerc...nrotations.htm
cr's are great i also do other cuff work along with them.
 
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Old 05-17-2003, 05:08 PM   #17
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Damn I hate strength hammer machines

Arnold , Military , Cleans and Dumbell Presses, compound all the way baby!
the only thing i hate about them is that people use them as a cruch instead of an aid. like the 160lb guy who loads up 4 plates and raises it 2 in then slams it down for 10 reps. then he has the nerve to get up an breathe hard and look aroung to see who was watching.
 
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John : military presses barbell or dumbell hit the rear area too
 
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Try and keep away from machines that do shoulder exersices. In fact stay away from all machines unless thier involved in super sets or something. U want to try and train with free weights. Why? Cos their the best and put on mass muscles Yea!
 
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Oh forgot, Dumbell press is one of the bests besides the bar press which is the same thing except with a bar.
 
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