DoggCrapp Training Feedback
- 08-02-2006, 11:27 AM
- 08-02-2006, 12:38 PM
Best training I've used while ON. Best training while off too. Hitting body parts more often, albeit at lower volume (NOT LOWER INTENSITY), is in my experience, the very best way to grow fast.
The workouts are short, but very intense. You need a spotter on many/most sets...that's just how it is. If you're not the type of person that wants to go hard every workout, bar none, forget Doggcrapp. It's not for everyone. If every time in the gym you're the person who is constantly trying to go up, lift more, and focus on a goal, it's for you. Again, not for everybody.
- 08-03-2006, 02:44 PM
08-03-2006, 03:30 PM
check out the workout logs subforum. There are a ton of DC logs. I like it
the workouts are a lot of fun.
08-03-2006, 09:15 PM
I've done a variation of his training minus the stretches and it's good stuff
08-03-2006, 09:55 PM
I like doing a push/pull/off/leg split for DC. Hit each bodypart with 3 working sets to failure (keep in mind back width and thickness are 2 bp's)
08-03-2006, 10:44 PM
Best training i've ever done hands down. Haven't had the chance to do it while on but i can say it's definitely an awesome way to train when your natural.
08-03-2006, 10:51 PM
I like it...strength comes quick! Definitely worth a shot.
08-03-2006, 11:08 PM
what exercises does he recommend for back thickness?
08-03-2006, 11:24 PM
deads, rack deads, bent over rows, tbar rows, hyperextensions, seated rows, etc.Originally Posted by mixedup
08-03-2006, 11:28 PM
Deadlifts and diff variation of rows.Originally Posted by mixedup
I do a modified version and really like it especially the split and frequency. As far as being "on" or not, I don't see how that matters. If it doesn't work while your "off" then it won't work while your "on" and vice versa. IMHO
08-04-2006, 12:04 AM
Is this similar to West Side? If your warming up with so many sets arent you adding volume?
Just trying to get a good understanding
08-04-2006, 02:41 AM
Well normally you increase the volume when your on gear, well most do anyway. But i think the results would just be faster on gear that's all.
08-04-2006, 06:26 AM
Hey BP, do you find that you can effectively avert overtraining btwn DC and martial arts?Originally Posted by bpmartyr
08-04-2006, 09:10 AM
Yes and no. I find that I need to take a week off more frequently than I did with a higher volume program and I go less than full intensity on some workouts namely legs as bouncing around sparring and kicking take a surprising toll on them already. I am also doing a slightly modified version that I got from Glen. Not as many warmups and 3 working sets with increasing weight vs just one with RP's or statics although I typically try and hold a static or at least an exaggerated negative on the last rep. We will see how it goes now that I am incorporating more cardio back into the mix. Last cut I used the same split but instead of increasing weights each set I would only rest 60 seconds with the same weight and would effectively hit my desired rep ranges without having weight increases. My heartrate remained elevated the entire workout this way as well which is a plus while cutting. One more thing to note is my rep ranges are 8-10, 6-8 and 2-4 for the escalating weight in the sets vs some of the higher reps I see y'all doin in your logs. I don't know if that would push me towards overtraining more or not.Originally Posted by Beowulf
Ok, too much juice, T3, caffeine and ephedrine for me. I'll stop typing now.
08-04-2006, 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by longtom74
completely different, westside is geared more towards powerlifting and dc was originally geared towards bbing. beelze made a nice transformation and made it for strength training. but most strength guys(powerlifters) dont do it
and a warmup isnt meant to be hard, just get blood moving, joints warm, and cns primed.
08-04-2006, 04:05 PM
Bp that doesn't sound modified, that's not DC anymore, the whole point is to do 1 set to failure rest pause, then do static reps and intense stretches. And to increase your weights/reps each week and cycle through exercises. I'm not saying their is anything wrong with what your doing i just don't think that can be called DC training anymore.
08-04-2006, 04:13 PM
Would it be ok to train DC style on a cut?
08-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Heh, maybe so. The split, frequency and overall volume remain as I do somewhere between ~13-20 reps per exercise just split between 3 weight ascending sets vs one with RP/static. I still do some statics, controlled eccentric, intense stretching and I up the weight or reps every workout, if I stall, the exercise changes. Overall I think this style has more in common with DC than not thus the "modified" designation. But hey, from now on we'll call this "BP" training, has a nice ring.Originally Posted by CHAPS
08-04-2006, 06:57 PM
Doing it right now. Still hitting PR's about 80% of the time, and that is while doing manual labor in sweltering heat.Originally Posted by fbxdan
08-04-2006, 07:02 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but plan on doing so once I heal up a couple of injuries that I'm working around right now. I just wouldn't be able to properly put in the balls out intensity necessary in my current condition.
08-04-2006, 07:12 PM
Ohhhhhhhh ok, ya BP i would consider that modified DC training then,
08-05-2006, 01:23 AM
I'm jumping on the DC bandwagon...I'm gonna try it whilst cutting. will report in every so often.
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08-05-2006, 01:27 AM
I'm eating at around maintenance and honestly your body has no choice but to grow because you are ALWAYS challenging it.
08-05-2006, 02:47 AM
Excellent. I hope to try a dc stype training program here in a couple weeks. Im going to try it while cutting.
11-05-2006, 11:32 AM
So I tried it for about 6 weeks and hit a couple plateaus. I had to take a week off and an easy week due to slight injuries. I'm gonna give it another 6 and decide whether or not I wanna switch back to 1 muscle group a day with moderate volume. Anything new guys?
11-05-2006, 12:41 PM
If my goals were strictly bodybuilding oriented, I would never even look at another program. Ever. As my goals are a bit different than most, Im going to spend time rotating between DC and WSBB. After I squat a grand, perhaps Ill change my mind.
11-05-2006, 12:48 PM
I've been using the Bumblebizzle hybrid modification of DC for a bit now. Strength definitely surges forward quickly. It's prettty gratifying to hit PR's every single session. The stretches start to really compell you to push yourself as well. If you are stalling in gains, primarily in strength, then DC or a modification of it, is for you.
11-05-2006, 01:16 PM
I was stagnant in gains in size and strength, till i found DC and now i'm hitting personal bests every workout, and i haven't used it on cycle yet! Your always getting stronger so the size will creep on ya as well, the first month i did it just eating at maintenance i gained 4lbs of muscle. It just makes training fun again instead of just goign throw the paces. And you can't take it easy on yourself because your always having to beat your previous weights. The stretches are awesome as well they really help recovery and i found new roundness and fullness to my muscle bellies from the.
11-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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