what do you guys do for shoulder training?

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    what do you guys do for shoulder training?


    yesterday I did shoulders, and while during training I exhausted my shoulders, Today I feel I really didn't get a good workout.  I know you don't have to be sore to have had a good workout, but still I think I need some new exercises for the shoulders.

     

    i do seated dumbell press, 1 warm up set, then 3 heavier sets

    front and side delt raises

    and shrugs the the ol' traps (my fav)

     

    should I add something, here, or switch it up somehow?

    what do yous do for your shoulders.

    thanks

     

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    I guess you could try smith machine presses or something... I love db presses myself, they've always worked for me... you should think about using drop sets, supersets, etc. as well.
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    DB Presses supersetted with Lateral Raises 3x6-10
    Rear Raises supersetted with Front Raises 2x6-10
    BB Shruggs supersetted with Incline DB Shruggs 2x6-10
    I`m going through a superset phase right now
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    incline db shrugs?
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    DB military
    wide-grip upright rows
    lateral raises
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    well i think part of the problem is my gym and the peopel in it...i had to wait forever to do my db presses....I started out light, with 45lbs for 12.....then i went to get the 55.(only 1 set)....they were in use..then went to get the 65's instead...and of course they were in use....like wtf yous need to get more then one pair of each weight

    so basically isat and "weighted" a while.

    but i agree biggin, i think i will start supersetting on shoulder day. Maybe i can superset ..upright rows, with front and side raises....that might do some damage....the good kind that is
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    I do:

    3 sets of 8 - Seated BB overhead press

    3 sets of 8 - DB rear delt raises

    3 sets of 8 - DB front raises

    I'll rotate rear delt raise and DB lateral raises.
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    4 sets of dumbell presses
    4 sets of arnold presses
    4 sets of frount DB delt raises
    4 sets of side delt raises
    4 sets upright rows
    4 sets shrugs on the trap bar.


    talk to yah
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    isnt arnold press and dumbell press pretty much the same..expet you rotate on teh way up with the arnold press?
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    first off, the arnold press will give you a slightly different muscle recruitment pattern, so it is different, but i would use it as a an alternative (something to switch to after 6 or so workouts using dumbell shoulder press). the first routine you posted wasn't all that bad. i would switch the front db raises for rear delt raises. most of us have overdeveloped front delts and underdeveloped rear delts.

    the reason you may not feel as much pain the next day is because the shoulders have a different arrangement of muscle fibers than say the chest. its really complicated and i don't think i could describe it effectively, but know that this is normal for some people. i too "feel" very little in the way of pain or soreness in my shoulders even though my db shoulder press is 80% of my flat bench. so as long as you get bigger or stronger, i wouldn't worry much about not feeling too much pain.
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    h19...

    i dont "feel" alot of soreness in my shoulders either. I alternate between db presses and standing mil presses. when i change up here in a coupla weeks i think i'll do seated mil...havent done those for awhile. as long as you change your routine occasionally and you can see that your shoulders are gettin stronger and are growin...thats the important thing. good luck. any chance you could train at a less crowded time?
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    you guys are changing up your rep brackets too, right?
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    I can train at a different time, but it would have to be later at night, which I would rather not do, since I would most likely be up most of the night.....Im already a very light sleeper and i work out around 5:30 pm...as it is......

    my gym isnt that great, i go there cause its cheap. they have what you need, but just not enough of it. one row of db's ,,,,thats not enough....gotta have a few of each IMO

    but i think i have underdevoloped front delts..and decent rear....check out my pics in the pics section.

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    upright rows rock for hitting the shoulders.
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    Originally posted by hamper19
    incline db shrugs?
    done facing forward on an incline bench. (the front of your body rested on the bench) this puts more emphasis on the rear delt/upper back and the meat part of your traps. same effect can be had however shruging with your heads down.
    shoulders and traps are without a doubt my best body part....not saying i know the secret to "boulder shoulders" but i got em ( ) my favorite shoulder exercises include upright rows, clean and press, and behind the neck presses (standing up). the posters who suggested supersetting and dropsetting.....can get your shoulders going as well. Sage
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    I can't remember the name of this exercise...it was in an issue of Muscle and Fitness a year or so ago. Yeah, the mag is pretty much crap, but I picked it up in an airport. Anyway...you're doing a seated overhead press..you start with the weight in front of you and press it up just until it's over your head, then lower it to you shoulders behind your head then move it back to your starting position. It hurts like hell.
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    Sounds like the arnold press.
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    cuban presses are fun...wide grip...upright row to the sternum..."flip" your wrists and the bar (like doing a clean) and press up...it is different than clean and press due to the fact that you arent coming from the ground...just standing w/ the bar, and doing an upright row...
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    Originally posted by Hal
    I can't remember the name of this exercise...it was in an issue of Muscle and Fitness a year or so ago. Yeah, the mag is pretty much crap, but I picked it up in an airport. Anyway...you're doing a seated overhead press..you start with the weight in front of you and press it up just until it's over your head, then lower it to you shoulders behind your head then move it back to your starting position. It hurts like hell.
    known as "rocky presses". simply alternating front to back presses with the bar. (can be used to do lat pulldowns as well...) Sage
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    Seated Barbell Military 4x
    Upright Rows 4x
    Front Raises 4x
    Lat Raises 4x

    Supersetting the front and lat raises, the shoulders die from these!
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    Personally, I believe the front raises are way overrated. The press movements are more than enough for front delts IMO.
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    Originally posted by labrad
    The press movements are more than enough for front delts IMO.
    that probably explains why I can hardly do any of em when its time to do them, they are definitly a bitch
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    I always start with:
    clean + presses 4 sets 8,6,4,2

    My regular shoulder routine is pretty simple, heavy dumbell presses, lateral raise stripsets, Neck Press, etc.

    Every 4 workouts or so, this routine helps shock those delts:

    Machine military press 8,8,6,6

    WideGrip Upright Row 8,8,6,6 supersetted with:
    Incline Lateral Raise (on incline bench)
    10,10,8,8

    BentOver Lateral Raise stripset
    4sets

    Dumbell Shoulder Press supersetted with lateral/front raise combo
    6+superset,6+superset,6+supers et

    After that, my delts are fried!

    BigV

    I hear you guys about the lack of soreness...Ill get a wicked pump but Im never really too sore the next day.
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    BigV, I think I might steal your workout..lol
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