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Old 05-20-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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Talking Best way for a girl to loose weight?

What's the best way for a girl to loose weight?

I currently ordered sesathin and HEAT, and now I'm trying to figure out how to enhance the results with a better diet and workout regimen.

Please help me out....

I'm looking to loose 10-15 lbs.
 
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:31 AM   #2
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Very broad question here. Stats? More info is needed but no doubt diet will be the answer.
 
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:53 AM   #3
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Diet and cardio, same as everyone else

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Old 05-20-2005, 12:58 PM   #4
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5'5 and 128...i do both...but i need to STEP IT UP...i need better results...

any specifics?



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Diet and cardio, same as everyone else

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Old 05-20-2005, 01:54 PM   #5
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i'm guessing that u have stalled out, right? you are probably not eating enough and your body thinks it's starving so it's holding onto all of the fat that you want to lose. So eat more and cleaner.
 
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is this who I think it is?
 
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5'5 and 128...i do both...but i need to STEP IT UP...i need better results...

any specifics?
How can anyone give you specifics from the info you've provided?
 
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Old 05-21-2005, 01:43 AM   #8
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keep a reasonable macronutrient split, maintain a caloric defecit of at least 500kcal/day, moderate intensity cardio for extended periods of time OR high intensity interval training.

really, give more info. it's like cooking from a recipe that doesn't give ingredients...
 
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this is my gf, so back off dudes. She pretty much does a reduced bbers diet. About 6 small meals a day. She eats almost totally clean. She does a conventional 4 day split with 20mins of cardio afterward. Can you guys please reaffirm that she needs to eat more, I keep telling her to but she won't listen. She keeps thinking less cal mean less weight. She needs help composing a specific diet for herself. Basically she eats clean, but probably doesnt eat the right food in the right combination at the right time. She is one of those people that naturally holds a little exta weight and it really hard for her to loose. She is not one of those overweight girls from eating like **** and drinking. I told her to up the cardio to 40mins. I am also telling her to eat only the lowest gi carbs. Basically to reduce her intake of 100% wheat bread or wheat pasta, which makes up most of her carbs.
 
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Calculate her BMR and have her go on a Zig Zag.

Or you could always put together an EC for her
 
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Hehe don't you know undertaker? Since you are the boyfriend you don't know ****.


I have the same problem with my wife. It doesn't matter that I have designed programs for people, or that I am one of the stronger people in the gym, she simply will not listen to me when it comes to diets/exercise.

I think someone called it "proximity ignorance", meaning that since the person is close to you they assume that you don't know what you are talking about.

It was not until I finally mentioned that an ex-girlfriend of mine used the nearly the exact program that I had her doing and she has been winning lightweight bodybuilding competitions that my wife has actually believed that I know what I am talking about. And even then she doesn't "completely" believe it.

.....mmmmm I'm ranting now. Best piece of advice. LISTEN TO YOUR BOYFRIEND.
 
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:36 AM   #12
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It was not until I finally mentioned that an ex-girlfriend of mine used the nearly the exact program that I had her doing and she has been winning lightweight bodybuilding competitions that my wife has actually believed that I know what I am talking about. And even then she doesn't "completely" believe it.
Saying something nice about your ex (especially how fit she was) would get you shot (or worse) in most cases
 
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Saying something nice about your ex (especially how fit she was) would get you shot (or worse) in most cases

Yeah I know, I had held that info back for quite some time and I finally let it loose when she kept ignoring everything i would tell her.

Seems to have worked though.
 
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Calculate her BMR and have her go on a Zig Zag.

Or you could always put together an EC for her
Be it as I am a straight bulker type of kid, I have no idea what the hell this means. How do I calculate her BMR? Zig Zag? EC?. I cant really help her cuz I don't really know anything about cutting/losing weight.
 
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BMR = basal metabolic rate
EC = Ephedra/Caffeine stack

they have plenty of online BMR calculators that will tell you the amount of calories you need to eat to lose/gain/maintain your weight, assuming they are clena calories.

hope that helps

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this is my gf, so back off dudes. She pretty much does a reduced bbers diet. About 6 small meals a day. She eats almost totally clean. She does a conventional 4 day split with 20mins of cardio afterward. Can you guys please reaffirm that she needs to eat more, I keep telling her to but she won't listen. She keeps thinking less cal mean less weight. She needs help composing a specific diet for herself. Basically she eats clean, but probably doesnt eat the right food in the right combination at the right time. She is one of those people that naturally holds a little exta weight and it really hard for her to loose. She is not one of those overweight girls from eating like **** and drinking. I told her to up the cardio to 40mins. I am also telling her to eat only the lowest gi carbs. Basically to reduce her intake of 100% wheat bread or wheat pasta, which makes up most of her carbs.
Women always stall out by not eating enough, or doing too much damned cardio (usually both). If you're 12-14% and trying to go leaner "supplements" are usually extremely helpful if not absolutely neccesary. Clen/T3 will do the trick, but don't do that
 
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Be it as I am a straight bulker type of kid, I have no idea what the hell this means. How do I calculate her BMR? Zig Zag? EC?. I cant really help her cuz I don't really know anything about cutting/losing weight.
Zig zag diets alternate going above maintenance and below it, but they go below more than they go up. Sometimes if someone is REALLY prone to stalling out when trying to lose weight they can be helpful.

EC is Ephedrine/Caffiene, which is also VERY helpful for most people in losing weight, esp. when you start to get very lean.
 
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Zig zag diets alternate going above maintenance and below it, but they go below more than they go up. Sometimes if someone is REALLY prone to stalling out when trying to lose weight they can be helpful.
Close, your supposed to Zig Zag your BMR by 500 calories.

So if your BMR was 2000, you would eat 1500 calories for 5 days, then 2500 for 2 days.

That way, you can maintain a large calorie deficit, but without the problem of your BMR lowering and stalling out.
 
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uhhh.... Is that not what I said? And you would want to eat more than 1500/2500... You don't eat below your BMR (this ****s you up, and is bad), you eat below your daily maintenance calories (BMR + calories used for activity). If you are eating 500 cals below your BMR your daily energy balance is probably somewhere around -1500 to -2000 calories depending on how large and active you are. This is gonna lead to muscle loss and then a harsh stall out unless you're really fat... I would shoot for no more than 1000 calories below your estimated maintenance calories, and I wouldn't start at 1000 below, probably 500.

In reality if you diet right zig zagging isn't going to do anything for you unless you're very lean perhaps. And on a proper diet you're "zigzagging" anyhow, since you are gonna get more protein and carbs on workout days.
 
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