LBM, VAT, SAT - achieving an accurate body-comp assessment

  1. LBM, VAT, SAT - achieving an accurate body-comp assessment


    Above and beyond the shortcomings of any particular measurement system, VAT (visceral adipose tissue - or, belly-fat) throws a monkeywrench into the calculations.

    Are there methods of calculating or estimating bodyfat (OTHER THAN buoyancy & impedance scales) that compensate for VAT & don’t require hiring someone to take the measurements for me?

    Mods - please move this thread to the proper forum (if this isn't it)!


  2. The problem with VAT is that it's hard to say how much it contributes to any particular person's waist measurement. I would say a combination of skinfold caliper and the navy bodyfat calculation method will give you a decent ballpark number if you average the two out.

  3. thanks for that!

    I knew there had to be a way of estimating based on measurement, but didn't know how to locate it.

    none of the refs I pulled up address this, but it seems to me that one should suck in the gut when taking the abdominal measurement: can you clarify this for me? yes? no?

    turns out my computations weren't so wildly off as I feared - nice to know!
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  4. I forcefully exhale by contracting my abs when taking stomach measurements. I don't think you should suck in your gut though, if I did I could probably get waist measurements down to like 36" and that just aint right, no way

  5. works out the same for me either way
    ...and either way, I'm still a lard-ass!

    But only a shadow of the lard-ass I used to be...

  6. there is a pod system. You sit in a space ship looking pod with underwear on. It then fills full of air and measures the amount of space your body takes up. Then some math and you have a 99% accurate body fat number.

    I know that some of the health and fitness centers on Navy bases have this. for all the fat sailors and fat wives. lol At least it was free for me.

  7. Well if you don't mind paying or your insurance will cover it, there is always a DEXA scan (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry)... tells you exact bone mass, water mass, muscle mass, and fat mass. Most decent hospital radiology departments have one.. I think it costs $75 to have it done around here.

  8. the pod system is one I hadn't heard about - ditto the DEXA scan (no idea if there is one around here, or if I could get a doc to send me for one (once my bro gets outta med school there'll be no probs...).

    the home-game version is more what I was looking for - I've been tracking my changes w/ calipers, but I had no way of knowing if it would or could compensate for the big wad o' VAT I picked up being sick for so long.

    good to know there's a variety of topmodern options for milestones too: thanks guys!

    wonder what else is out there....

  9. We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading

  10. Quote Originally Posted by exnihilo
    We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading
    If he comes out to more than 30g protein per scoop, I'll drink him when you're done, thanks
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    Hey guys, how would I find a place to get a DEXA, hydrostatic weighing, or any other type of BF% measuring....very interested in finding as I just doubt my measuring....

  12. Quote Originally Posted by spitboy
    Originally Posted by ex nihilo:
    We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading
    If he comes out to more than 30g protein per scoop, I'll drink him when you're done, thanks
    Interesting ideas, guys - is this something you do regularly?
  

  
 

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