LBM, VAT, SAT - achieving an accurate body-comp assessment

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    LBM, VAT, SAT - achieving an accurate body-comp assessment


    Above and beyond the shortcomings of any particular measurement system, VAT (visceral adipose tissue - or, belly-fat) throws a monkeywrench into the calculations.

    Are there methods of calculating or estimating bodyfat (OTHER THAN buoyancy & impedance scales) that compensate for VAT & don’t require hiring someone to take the measurements for me?

    Mods - please move this thread to the proper forum (if this isn't it)!

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    The problem with VAT is that it's hard to say how much it contributes to any particular person's waist measurement. I would say a combination of skinfold caliper and the navy bodyfat calculation method will give you a decent ballpark number if you average the two out.
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    thanks for that!

    I knew there had to be a way of estimating based on measurement, but didn't know how to locate it.

    none of the refs I pulled up address this, but it seems to me that one should suck in the gut when taking the abdominal measurement: can you clarify this for me? yes? no?

    turns out my computations weren't so wildly off as I feared - nice to know!
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    I forcefully exhale by contracting my abs when taking stomach measurements. I don't think you should suck in your gut though, if I did I could probably get waist measurements down to like 36" and that just aint right, no way
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    works out the same for me either way
    ...and either way, I'm still a lard-ass!

    But only a shadow of the lard-ass I used to be...
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    there is a pod system. You sit in a space ship looking pod with underwear on. It then fills full of air and measures the amount of space your body takes up. Then some math and you have a 99% accurate body fat number.

    I know that some of the health and fitness centers on Navy bases have this. for all the fat sailors and fat wives. lol At least it was free for me.
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    Well if you don't mind paying or your insurance will cover it, there is always a DEXA scan (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry)... tells you exact bone mass, water mass, muscle mass, and fat mass. Most decent hospital radiology departments have one.. I think it costs $75 to have it done around here.
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    the pod system is one I hadn't heard about - ditto the DEXA scan (no idea if there is one around here, or if I could get a doc to send me for one (once my bro gets outta med school there'll be no probs...).

    the home-game version is more what I was looking for - I've been tracking my changes w/ calipers, but I had no way of knowing if it would or could compensate for the big wad o' VAT I picked up being sick for so long.

    good to know there's a variety of topmodern options for milestones too: thanks guys!

    wonder what else is out there....
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    We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading
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    Quote Originally Posted by exnihilo
    We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading
    If he comes out to more than 30g protein per scoop, I'll drink him when you're done, thanks
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    Hey guys, how would I find a place to get a DEXA, hydrostatic weighing, or any other type of BF% measuring....very interested in finding as I just doubt my measuring....
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    Quote Originally Posted by spitboy
    Originally Posted by ex nihilo:
    We could kill you, grind you up into a fine paste, and boil the paste to denature your proteins and disrupt membranes then centerfuge out the different portions and measure them. That's get a pretty exact reading
    If he comes out to more than 30g protein per scoop, I'll drink him when you're done, thanks
    Interesting ideas, guys - is this something you do regularly?
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