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  1.  04-13-2005  12:53 PM
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    Thumbs up cannonball delts


    what exercises do yall think hit the side delts the best? do yall use more than one side movement during shoulder routines, im just having some trouble getting my delts big. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated



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    Personally I stick with pressing movements for shoulders. Can't go wrong there.

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    My shoulders have ALWAYS grew like a weed when doing Standing Overhead Presses as the staple exercise.

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    Slow and controlled Arnolds have always done me well, and when I switch it up I just go to a military press with a bb or db.

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    I like heavy dumbell presses and side laterals 8 reps but the twist is to hold for an 8 count. I then follow up with front laterals and pump the delts up.

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    Originally Posted by houseman
    My shoulders have ALWAYS grew like a weed when doing Standing Overhead Presses as the staple exercise.
    Same, Standing overhead press is the only thing that has ever done anything for my delts.

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    arnolds did me VERY WELL.. i have been blessed with outstanding shoulder developent (unfortunately horrible upper chest and bicep development) and everything seems to make them grow but arnolds seemed to work them the best.

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    Originally Posted by coofoostu
    Same, Standing overhead press is the only thing that has ever done anything for my delts.
    Me too!

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    I use seated DB press and BB military press, the trick is to go balls out heavy for 4-8 reps @ 4 sets a piece...NOTE:STRETCHING BEFORE AND DURING IS KEY

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    for me, switching up is a key. Doing 1-2 heavy basics, then a variety of other stuff, always changing things around. might even try some one arm d-bell presses, standing 1 arm d-bells. Arnolds are good, throw some cables in (more for shape than overall size, though.) And most of all, stay INTENSE!

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    Thumbs up Intensity


    Originally Posted by milwood
    for me, switching up is a key. Doing 1-2 heavy basics, then a variety of other stuff, always changing things around. might even try some one arm d-bell presses, standing 1 arm d-bells. Arnolds are good, throw some cables in (more for shape than overall size, though.) And most of all, stay INTENSE!
    I agree, however you hit it right on the head when you say stay INTENSE! Alot a people don't understand that there is more to liftin' iron than just pushing and pulling. I see some guys at my gym who complains that they can't get any result and they have to use gear. But these these are the guys who will have a conversation with there buddies while doing a set. No concentration, No Intensity...............

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    Another vote for slow, controlled Arnolds.

    Also a key is to not overtrain the shoulders. Many people think they need to train their shoulders in the same volume they train their chest or back. This is not the case.

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    Slow and controlled Arnolds have always done me well, and when I switch it up I just go to a military press with a bb or db.
    I second that - Arnolds all the way. I like them better than standard presses because you're getting a complete range of motion, they are working the rotator cuff muscles as well, and you inevitably have to use less weight to get the same or better results - which makes them easier on the shoulder joint.

    Another vote for slow, controlled Arnolds.
    Also a key is to not overtrain the shoulders. Many people think they need to train their shoulders in the same volume they train their chest or back. This is not the case.
    Definitely. Im cursed with pain-in-the-ass shoulders. They grow fine, but as soon as I start pushing them too hard they start to get impinged. WHICH SUCKS. I need some ART action eventually.

    The routine that Im using right now has given me the best results for my delts:

    Clean and Presses 10,8,6
    Arnold Presses 12,10,8
    Lateral Raises 12,10,8
    Reverse Pec Deck 12,10,8

    BV

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    I must confess. I have been pushing iron for almost 13 yrs and I have never done Arnolds shoulder press. But after getting suuch reviews I will definetly incorporate them into my routine. Another thing I've never tried is any type of gear..........Sure I use creatine and NO2 but nothing else. 13yrs ago I started at 198lbs. w/ 32 waist @5'11". Today I'm 245lbs w/34 waist. Alot of people who haven't seen me for years thinks I'm on gear but there's no GIAMBI here.

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    Cool


    every seen the jaycutler videos? well i do his shoulder routine and it has helped me add 2 inches to my shoulder since. here is what it looks like

    pre-exhaust
    One arm cable lateral 2 sets 8-10 reps
    side laterals 3 sets 8-10 reps
    mass building
    dumbell and barbell press 3 sets 8-10 reps
    front-raise 3 sets 8-10 reps
    bent-over laterals 3 sets 8-10 reps

    NOTE: when you are doing your presses do not lock your shoulders when your raise the weight overhead. Locking your elbows removes stress from the shoulders and U dont want that, you want to keep the shoulders stressed at all times.

    try this out for about three months and you should be on your way to having a cannon ball delt.

    also do not underestimate the bent over lateral for your rear delts because the are just as important. They make the shoulders look evern rounder, trust me!

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    Originally Posted by xtdot
    Today I'm 245lbs w/34 waist. Alot of people who haven't seen me for years thinks I'm on gear but there's no GIAMBI here.
    Hey man leave my boy Giambi alone...Ya Big Ass Jamaican!
    Bout time you made it on here!

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    Cool


    Originally Posted by J563
    Hey man leave my boy Giambi alone...Ya Big Ass Jamaican!
    Bout time you made it on here!
    Hey (No Giambi Here) thats not a diss, maybe if I said no Barry B.....

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    I don't know how many people I see overtrain delts. The simply are not that big of a muscle group and get so much indirect work from Chest and Back that anymore than 8 sets directly per week is overtraining IMO. I never go over 8 sets per week and I seem to be doing just fine. I also only do Arnolds and sometime lateral raises just because I get bored of Arnolds sometimes.
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    Originally Posted by diplomats
    every seen the jaycutler videos? well i do his shoulder routine and it has helped me add 2 inches to my shoulder since. here is what it looks like

    pre-exhaust
    One arm cable lateral 2 sets 8-10 reps
    side laterals 3 sets 8-10 reps
    mass building
    dumbell and barbell press 3 sets 8-10 reps
    front-raise 3 sets 8-10 reps
    bent-over laterals 3 sets 8-10 reps

    NOTE: when you are doing your presses do not lock your shoulders when your raise the weight overhead. Locking your elbows removes stress from the shoulders and U dont want that, you want to keep the shoulders stressed at all times.

    try this out for about three months and you should be on your way to having a cannon ball delt.

    also do not underestimate the bent over lateral for your rear delts because the are just as important. They make the shoulders look evern rounder, trust me!

    WAY to many sets. Cutler doesn't even do that much volume work anymore and there is a reason. You overtrain very easy even taking 2-3g of gear per week.
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