Yeah but at the top of the movement with DB's, even touching them together, has more of a downward force than a squeezing together force. That's why I say cables FTW since there is dominant pec force throughout the entire movement.
I'm not at all surprised this turned into a PL vs BB pissing match of sorts.
Check your form: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/exercise-science/190675-proper-techniques.html
My thoughts on flat bench fall on both sides; as a PL I love it, but not because it shows of bad ass chest strength. For us, it's a TEST of functionality, and multiple system strength. I don't use flat bench to get a stronger chest, either.
Weighted Dips, incline DB FTW.
i don't know if it's a pissing match....its more about what the OP is interested in which would help make the answers easier
it depends on if he likes powerlifting then the form being discussed and bench press are more important....if it's bodybuilding, then that form and flat bench aren't as useful and theres better options out there for size and shape...like u stated dips, dorian yates loved decline movements as well
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some people might ding flat bench
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If you must really know my .02, I am not a fan of the Flat BB press, i prefer the DB to it, gives me much better results.
Also some folks like my brother in law, have shoulder issues which kind of makes it difficult for them to lift the BB in the first place, so they may choose a different option.
I am not an advocate of either, rather indifferent, but dissing one for piping up the other, is borderline broscience because it assumes one size fits all. You can never with all your degrees and education etc predict what sort of shoulder issues anyone who uses DB or Smith or BB actually has. Its about knowing what works for you.
Overall I am aware that BB is better, and Smith works better for isolation work (iirc Coop said this)
the best way to get better at the flat bench is to do flat bench.