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    I was searching the net for a nice sized article to post on Rest-Pause Training when I cam across this from Jason Mueller on Anabolicextreme.com. Its about is first foray into Hardcore Training.

    "Now I know what youíre thinking. ďWho is this guy that he thinks he trains harder than me? I bust my ass in the gym every day, nobody trains harder than me!Ē You know, I used to have the same attitude. About four years ago a friend of mine who lives in Southern California is telling me that he is the ultimate trainer, that no one trains harder than him, and that he can produce amazing results with his training system. Sure I thought. I mean, Iím squatting close to 700 for reps, Iím benching close to 500, Iím doing rack deads with 800, and bent-over rows with 500. No ****. I assumed that no one was training harder than my partner and myself. So, my friend down South and I are always talking **** to each other, as friends have a tendency to do, about who was the superior trainer. I tell him that Iím making a trip to SoCal and that itís put up or shut up time. We both are looking forward to the ensuing battle, each person convinced that he is the superior trainer. Woe is me.

    First of all, letís dispel the myth of weight. If you are one of those people who is convinced that the more weight you lift, the bigger you get, WAKE UP!!! I will agree that neophyte trainers will be able to use increasingly more weight over a very short period of time, and that they will probably see great results. We are not neophyte trainers. I donít know about you, but my strength doesnít really increase that much after I have been training consistently. If you sole goal is too lift heavier and heavier weights, thinking that you will become bigger and bigger, you are in the wrong sport. You need to switch over to powerlifting or weightlifting immediately. If however, your goal is to produce the biggest, shapeliest muscles possible, then read on.

    Anyway, I hook up with my trainer friend down in SoCal eager to prove my worth. Iíve taken my Thermadrene and can feel itís magic starting to take affect. He takes me to this gym, I swear this was the biggest rat **** gym I have ever seen. No one works the desk, most of the members have keys to open the place up, itís a pure iron gym. You wonít find any elliptical walkers or Hammer Strength equipment in this place, just tons of iron. So, after getting over the shock of the appearance of the place, we begin training. My friend explains that we are going to work out using a rest pause system. Sounds kind of ***** to me but Iím game, ready to show my stuff. We start out on a flat bench in the power rack with the safety bars placed just below the lowest point of where the barbell will rest on my chest in the down phase. We also have a plate underneath the bench to give it a very slight decline. Mind you, Iím benching close to 500 now, and consider myself to be pretty strong. So when he tells me to start with 315, I tell him heís crazy. He assures me 315 is plenty heavy. He demonstrates the set. Ok, you are going to get 10 reps at a nice slow controlled pace, not bouncing the bar but controlling it through the entire range of motion. After you get 10, rack the bar for thirty seconds, then go for 7 more reps. After you that rest for another 30 seconds and get five more reps. He gets off the bench and I proceed with my set. Halfway through the set of seven Iím dusted. I think I got maybe five. I rack it and try to get my last five after thirty seconds of rest. Again, Iím dusted, maybe I got 2-3 with help. Obviously Iím embarrassed. I have to reduce the weight to around 245 because Iíve got two more sets. After resting long enough for him to do his set I go again. Iím getting my ass kicked here. At the end of this first exercise my ****ing chest if on fire and weíve still got two more exercises to go. Great. Next exercise, incline dumbbells. Same principal. Grabbing a moderately heavy weight (I think I started with 100ís, usually using 160ís before) I tried to get 10, 7, and 5 again for 3 sets. No dice. My chest is screaming stop, I canít catch my breath, the room is spinning like a ****ing top, and my friend is asking me if Iím ready for the next set. Sure, I say, trying not to throw up on my way to the next bench. Now were doing incline flys, and damn heavy incline flys at that. Now were only going for rest pause sets of 7,5,3 so I go with 100ís again. Mistake. Three sets of flys and were done. I made it. Iím alive. Thank you God. We tromp upstairs so I can hit some quad shots for my buddy, trying to regain some of the pride Iíve just swallowed several times over the course of this workout. After what seemed like an eternity I make it up this flight of stairs to the second level where some good sunlight is coming in through the windows. Ahh, he may have kicked my ass in that workout, Iím thinking, but wait till he sees this quad shot. I roll up my shorts and put my leg out in front of me, contracting that quad for all itís worth. Immediately my leg locks up in a cramp from my depleted state and I fall flat on my face in agony. So much for getting my pride back.

    The story I just told is true and was my first experience with hardcore training. Hardcore training is the kind of workouts that makes you want to cry. Hardcore training makes everyone in the gym look at you as if you were crazy, not because youíre screaming or yelling, but because you are busting your ass so hard that people think something is wrong with you. Hardcore training consists of the kind of workouts that you actually fear as they approach. Have you ever actually feared training? Have you ever literally felt as if something was seriously physically wrong with you after working out? Probably not. Now, Iíve seen some incredibly huge guys that are lazy sacks of **** when it comes to working out. Paul Dillet comes to mind. Now, those of smaller intellectual capacity might look at someone who trains like Dillet, look at his size, and think that the kind of training I advocate is unnecessary. However, Paul Dillet is a genetic freak, Paul Dillet is on every imaginable drug in unimaginable quantities. And, if I trained him, he would look twice as freaky as he does now if his heart didnít explode first. My point is this. Brutal workouts are a prerequisite for brutal size. My training partner now learned some of his techniques from the same guy I did. He has taken it a step further. He has incorporated some drop sets and stretching into the workouts that make it even more brutal. We trained back the other day and it literally hurt to breath because my lats were expanding with every breath I took. My first workout with him was legs and by the end my whole body was shaking. The slight incline of the parking lot looked like Mount Everest to me. Who paved this goddamn parking lot I was screaming inside as I walked to my car. Thatís how you should feel when your done training."

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    Very interesting.
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    I thought so too. This is one of the things Ilove about working out. There are more routines under the sun then almost any other sport.
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    I think I am going to try that chest routine on monday.



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    Could you post on how you think it worked?
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    Absolutely



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    However , I am going to substitute weighted dips instead of fly's.


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    O man that is awesome.

    I have had some workouts like that, but its not really planned, that sounds like a good plan in order to get your ass busted well.

    Ya just gotta love the pain that comes later on, its great.

    Thanks.
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    I'm always open to radical theories on intensity, but does no one else who wants size so bad have qualms about drop sets? Will I still definitely gain mass? Generally speaking, we know if we get enough rest, like 2-3 minutes between sets, we can do x amount of weight, that makes us feel big. But the optimal 90-120 second rest only let's us do 80% of x. That still feels okay. But when we start drop setting, we end up doing nearly 20 reps, on less than 50% of x. This is not dentrimental to bulking at all? Just curious to hear more on the logic of shorter rest not inhibiting recovery between sets and thus you're cutting rather than building.
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    Well back from the gym so here goes.
    I used approx 70% of my 1 rep max
    first set 10 - 30 sec -7- 30 sec - 5
    rested about 1.5 mins
    2nd set 10 -30- 7 - 30 - 4
    rested about 1.5 mins
    3rd set 10 - 30 - 7 - 4

    on 2nd and 3rd sets last 2 (7, 5- actually only got 4) got pretty to very difficult to not possible

    moved on to Incline db press and went a little lower

    10-7-5
    10-7-5
    10-7-4.5 got right hand up but could not get left. I used about 60% of 1 rep max

    moved on to weighted dips 3 sets of 10

    Chest was burning. It is now 2 hrs post workout and feels a little tired(usual) and will see how I feel in morning(any soreness)


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    Originally posted by LongBall
    Well back from the gym so here goes.
    I used approx 70% of my 1 rep max
    first set 10 - 30 sec -7- 30 sec - 5
    rested about 1.5 mins
    2nd set 10 -30- 7 - 30 - 4
    rested about 1.5 mins
    3rd set 10 - 30 - 7 - 4

    on 2nd and 3rd sets last 2 (7, 5- actually only got 4) got pretty to very difficult to not possible

    moved on to Incline db press and went a little lower

    10-7-5
    10-7-5
    10-7-4.5 got right hand up but could not get left. I used about 60% of 1 rep max

    moved on to weighted dips 3 sets of 10

    Chest was burning. It is now 2 hrs post workout and feels a little tired(usual) and will see how I feel in morning(any soreness)


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    Good job Longball.
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    Thanks guys, chest was a little sore the next day but nothing big by any means. I worked triceps along with chest and coupled that workout with close grip bench, skull crushers, and extensions and my tri's were sorer than my chest.




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