Barbell work should always be used for compound, functional lifts, not for isolation. If you want to isolate, there are better ways. Just use dumbbells.
You should definitely work towards the standing being a strong lift. Mine is horrible and I have been taking the steps to make it better. I can't do much weight with the standing yet so I knock those out first and then follow that with a seated exercise with heavier weights so the delts get worked harder. The stronger standing press will carryover well with many other exercises.
I agree. I never sit for OH/military press anymore. I don't think the traps and full delts get hit properly anyhow when doing seated OH press. I've never seen people go 'through the window' on a seated press, most lean back a bit and press in front of them, which is bad form.
The big problem with seated military presses is that they turn into a high incline press. The spine hyper arches, the but slide out, and the ROM is not finished with elbows aligned with ears.
When standing, if you keep your glutes and core engaged, this will not happen. This will also ensure greater delt activation versus what I described above.
Maybe it's the setups at my gym, but you can usually push your head back over the chair and allow the bar to descend to your chest on seated work. I just don't go to my chest because my forearms go numb if I go too low on seated BB press (I don't have this problem standing, though).
I disagree, for the reasons everyone else posted in this thread.
There are a few lifts I feel everyone should do, no matter what you goal is (be it physique, strength, whatever). The standing press is one of them. If a person is going to bust his butt in the gym, why not get stronger and be more functional? Your shoulders will still grow and look good and there are other movements to isolate if you want to.
To put it more simply, most people who can standing press a lot of weight have just as good shoulder build as someone who presses seated, if not better. But the person who does it standing is probably has a lot more "real world" strength.
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