too much protein bad?
- 07-28-2012, 12:19 PM
too much protein bad?
Well, i just got into a huge argument with my aunt and mom, both in the medical fields, saying that by the time I am 30 and 31 I am going to be all messed up with liver/kidney problems.
I roughly consume about 300g (I weigh 210 lbs) of protein a day and work out about 4 to 5 times a week intense.
What are your opinions about this?
I mean, Ive read articles where it is mentioned your muscles will not grow if its less then 100g for body builders and 200 is just about fine and 300 or more is enough to stress out your body and give you problems. Any knowledge or experience on this? It is like everyone wants me to cut back on protein but, how else are you supposed to grow?
- 07-28-2012, 12:28 PM
You don't need nearly that much protein. Calories will make you grow, not specifically protein. I doubt you will get one answer in this thread as this is a highly debated subject. You'll just get tons and tons of pages of people arguing back and fourth, posting studies for and against, speculation and opinion.
- 07-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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07-28-2012, 01:37 PM
07-28-2012, 02:45 PM
people can grow muscle with as little as .5gr/lbs of bodyweight as long as enough calories are being taken in and there is enough stimulus to grow.
so will more protein help, maybe. if those extra protein calories push you over the caloric need to allow for growth then yes it will. if you are eating enough fat and carbs to get plenty of carbs then it is not needed.
you can call me "ozzie" for short.
07-28-2012, 02:55 PM
07-28-2012, 03:48 PM
How old are you? What type of training? How much of your protein is from food and how much is supplemental?Originally Posted by willc86
"it's too much" is a lousy answer without knowing any other info. If he wants to gain mass and has no medical conditions then why is 1200 calories a day of mostly food (assumed example) protein a problem? On a 3600 calorie diet it's only 33%. Would be considered low by some.
07-28-2012, 04:12 PM
agreed with tbone, people stress to much over tryn to consume high amounts of protein. i use the 1g/lean mass method and it works fine. during bulk mode i found that i can get low amounts of pro with high amounts of carbs and still build muscle as long as my body is in a surplus
07-28-2012, 04:17 PM
07-28-2012, 04:47 PM
I agree with the sentiment of super high amounts of protein isn't necessary. I'm a college student so my budget is obviously restricted so I have more of a high fat diet with normally 0.7g/lb of protein and I have no problems gaining.
07-28-2012, 05:05 PM
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07-28-2012, 09:12 PM
I'm not going to bang my head against this forever but the op has people telling him that 300g of protein is unhealthy, will harm kidneys, etc. For a normal, healthy person who works out "intense" as he states, that just is plain nonsense. Does he "need" it, probably not. Will it cause any harm? No. Now he can continue taking their medical field advice and replace his fish and chicken with "healthy" whole grains and wheat.Originally Posted by T-Bone
07-28-2012, 09:14 PM
tell them to shut it and read this http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...e-for-kidneys/
I feel 1-1.5g per lb. is all you need but as long as you keep hydrated and aren't slamming ibuprofen or other kidney stressers and have no pre-existing kidney issues, you'll be fine.
07-28-2012, 09:46 PM
^ Thread of a guy who went on a cut while only eating ~90g of protein a day on average and went from ~220 to 178 while not losing strength. Pretty much verifies that protein intake is overstated in most aspects.
07-28-2012, 11:08 PM
07-28-2012, 11:19 PM
07-28-2012, 11:43 PM
i do carb cycling but als take in oer 4000 calssome days.....cals gotta come from somewhere, s do i jsut eat and obscene amount of fats instead of upping protein on low carb days? i dont wanna hurt myself but i love me some protein haha
07-28-2012, 11:54 PM
07-29-2012, 12:00 AM
One random guy from an uncontrolled N=1 study doesn't verify anything at all. The OP received opinions from people in the medical field about his protein intake causing health/kidney issues and it turns into this? (that's why)Originally Posted by T-Bone
07-29-2012, 12:22 AM
so, pretty much the conclusion is, anyone can grow and/or bulk with 1g protein per body weight as long as the calorie intake is a surplus?
has anyone done an experiment an/or ended up bulking and getting bigger muscle size and cutting once you hit your goal without an excess of protein?
07-29-2012, 12:27 AM
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07-29-2012, 12:35 AM
What does being detrimental to health and kidney function have to do with lifting? I guess the actual question wasn't interesting enough to you?Originally Posted by broda
07-29-2012, 09:52 PM
ok but at 150 lbs that means idnly be eating 150 protein but i eat 4000 cals......thats ALOT of carbs or ALOT of fats on low carb days
07-29-2012, 10:00 PM
It's beneficial bc it tastes good as hell and increases calories.Originally Posted by broda
I personally eat 2-3 lbs of chicken or turkey a day.
Fits macros. Tastes amazing. I'm lean and staying strong
07-29-2012, 10:10 PM
07-29-2012, 10:25 PM
If you go by NNU by ALROriginally Posted by broda
If you weigh 220 divide by 2.2 = 100kg multiply by .4 = 40 g nitrogen
So 16g nitrogen per 100 g protein. You need 250g protein per day to hit your NNU so that's about 1.15 g per lb of protein
07-29-2012, 11:55 PM
07-30-2012, 12:08 AM
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