To dip or not to dip
- 05-02-2012, 07:52 PM
Anyway xD cant replace or take out the dips!! Even less for what a phoney like the one in the video says, he is a schmuck !
On a side note: Made the almond butter cookies and the cheesecake today :'3 bless you buddy , keep it up with the recipes!! I still got left over frozen chicken from the latest recipe!
- 05-02-2012, 09:20 PM
I do them three times a week. I love them.
start off at 15-20 reps for a warmup
then 45lbs for 8-10 reps (failure) then drop set with no weight until failure for two sets
Then Finnish off with 12-15 reps with no weight.
05-02-2012, 10:36 PM
Dips are great because they are muli-joint very effective! Risk to reward, if you have shoulder problems work with ur PT and rehab!!
05-02-2012, 11:08 PM
05-03-2012, 02:52 AM
What I'm saying is, the back is such complicated complex of muscles and it's really the base for any lift.
In my opinion people tend to focus too much on arms, chest, legs and never enough on the back, especially the trap/mid back
if anything is always the lats ya know? My chest started to grow again after a stall when I started to really focus on my back,
my arms (I have long a## arms that look thin no matter what) same thing.. This is why I keep - and why the protocol is that way -
the ratio always in favor of pullups/chinups. Different grips, different width, side to side (my fav!) etc..
plus is really challenging if you do it with proper form.
As for the shoulder problems with dips, that is something to watch out for, it depends on your body type and overall is very subjective
I hurt my left shoulder pretty badly some month ago doing DB press, it took a while to heal 100%, dips didn't bother me at all
but DB and BB presses were, so like I said, subjective
If it hurts tho', once you're sure is not your form, don't do it or do volume instead of heavy weight on a given exercise,
don't power thru the pain especially with shoulders, don't be like me lol
05-03-2012, 07:59 PM
dips hurt? that sucks, and ithought i had it bad with straight bar bicep curls! if you can do them without pain, do them leaning forward and backward. and theyre awesome.
05-03-2012, 08:13 PM
I managed a new PR on dips last night
20 body weight dips to warm up
45 pounds x10
25 pounds x 7
I also see chins in the discussion now
For back i did:
5 sets of 12 pullups
then later for more influence on the arms
1 set 15 chins
1 set of 10 with 22 pounds
3 sets of 6 (BW) with a 10 second negative supersetted with cable curls.
Those last three sets bring pain!
05-03-2012, 09:30 PM
Thanks for your input.
I'm all for a wide back, I just don't want to over train my back. Chin's also exhaust my shoulders.
05-09-2012, 11:52 AM
I am doing an expanded Madcow program right now, and throw dips in on bench day (M&F)
I am trying to keep to the 5x5 program on anything I add to the workout, so my dip workout looks like this.
5 x bodyweight
5 x bw + 90 lbs.
5 x bw + 135 lbs.
5 x bw + 180 lbs.
going to up it all 5 pounds on Friday.
I was stalled out for a long time on my bench, got a huge jump when I added weighted dips. Now its mandatory at least twice a week.