INJURY LOG: SLAP repair, prehab / surgery / rehabilitation training log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Not bad lifts though Gutterpump! Not at all considering what you have been through!
    Oh these were all numbers prior to surgery when I was healthy hehe. I can't wait to take care of all my mobility issues and blast through to the 500's in my deadlift though. Has to be my favorite lift. I love ME lifts, and pulling off the floor feels better than squatting to me.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    198lb is the current APA record for strict press? My coach is doing 225 for reps, but he's a freggin beast 260lbs @ about 5'8 or so. I'm not actually sure when/where he competes though, he's fairly new to our gym and I've been out for a while.

    The last I tested my 1RM for strict press was last summer, and I got 181lbs, that's how I'm assuming my 1RM was about 190 in January, but I may be off a bit on that.
    No 198lb weight class. I have done 225 x 2(230 x 1 immedietly after that) already and am probably closer to 240 right now when fresh on a true max. I hope to be around 275 by winter.

  3. Ahh I gotcha. Yeah you're waaay ahead of me lol. How long have you been powerlifting for now? That's a really respectable number man.

    I started last summer, but last fall my training was really inconsistent too, so that's why I didn't' really focus on mobility till the new year as well. I was so busy last fall and also had a couple recurring injuries around that left shoulder.

    Tbh though, I am starting to re-think my goals and training now. I don't want to go through another injury like this again. From what I've heard though, it's pretty commonplace in the PW'ing world and doesn't mean I'll have to stop. I just may scale back a bit and go for more volume.

  4. Thanks!.

    Umm roughly 3months ago. Did an 8 week conditioning phase, and am on week 4(deload) of our strength phase. So really not that long.

    Best lifts so far are 505lb DL(this was like 4 months ago), I pulled 480 last week for an easy triple, and will pull 500 next week for a triple IIRC I did 405 x 12 reps in my conditioning phase. Goal is 600lb by fall.

    345lb bench. My worst I need to get my form down a bit here. Would like to hit 405 at some point.

    230 SOHP Shooting for 250 in the not too distant future.

    425 squat, but we train squats after DL. I would like a 500lb raw squat.

  5. Damn, your lifts were already great before focusing on strength! Wish I had numbers like that!

    I was pretty happy last summer when I pulled that 1RM for my deadlift though. I hadn't been deadlifting consistently at all, ever( due to lordosis / pain / tight hips), so that was an essentially untrained deadlift that maxed out way above my other numbers.

    I mainly switched my style to powerlifting so that I could be more athletic (functional strength), focusing on full body movements and proper form/mobility.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Ahh I gotcha. Yeah you're waaay ahead of me lol. How long have you been powerlifting for now? That's a really respectable number man.

    I started last summer, but last fall my training was really inconsistent too, so that's why I didn't' really focus on mobility till the new year as well. I was so busy last fall and also had a couple recurring injuries around that left shoulder.

    Tbh though, I am starting to re-think my goals and training now. I don't want to go through another injury like this again. From what I've heard though, it's pretty commonplace in the PW'ing world and doesn't mean I'll have to stop. I just may scale back a bit and go for more volume.
    Haha. Damn I misunderstood! I was really feeling terrible about myself thinking you were lifting that much this soon after surgery!

  7. Haha noooo, I won't try those lifts for a while. =D Band work / strength training won't start in my left arm/shoulder for another 3-4 weeks. Only isometrics for now!

    I'm doing split squats and GHR's with bodyweight. I'm so far behind right now in my lifts but hey, it's only temporary!

  8. ~ 6 Weeks Post-op - Monday May 14

    Physical therapy is still the same, doing regular ROM and adding a bit of AROM into the routine. Doing some isometrics and yoga as well in and out of therapy.

    Major problem right now: Muscle adhesions and knots in surrounding / supportive areas. I am not sure what is causing this so much, other than the muscles are getting used to the shoulder's new position. It's possible I am using the arm too much as well. Anyone have any input here?

    I've been constantly trying to roll out all the knots that I have using my yoga tuneup ball and lacrosse ball against the wall and floor. There's a major one in my bicep, my outer delt, and tricep. There's also a big knot in my trap, around where the 1st rib is attaching at the top. My infraspinatus is SUPER sore and tight most days, supraspinatus is also tight but not as bad.

    Last night I rubbed in a lot of magnesium oil into the areas and am feeling much better today.

    Gym workouts are twice a week, Mondays and Fridays:

    I'm now able to use the safety squat bar. It feels fine on my back/shoulders, the handles are in the perfect spot as well. I thought I'd have to keep my left arm down or away from holding the handle, but I was fine with holding both. I made sure that my arms didn't kick in at all, the weight was fully balanced on my back and kept low.

    After squatting 5x5 with the safety squat bar, I moved onto:
    5x8 Bulgarian Split Squats, holding just a 30 pound db
    5x5 GHR's with bodyweight

    I may start to step it up soon, and add sled pulls into the routine. Once things are going well, I will add a third day (on Wednesday) into the leg routine. This day would just be very light weight and high reps, just to aid healing and recovery.

    Hopefully once I'm fully back in action, I'll be a 500 pound squatter! That's the goal with all this leg work I'm's basically the only goal I can have right now. I have no idea how things will be when I start lifting with upper body again, but most people tell me I should heal fine from this, according to what I had done.


    This is my 3rd week of pinning 5mg of TB-500.
    Haven't started up CJCw/dac + GHRP's yet.

    Btw: Atrophy has been fairly bad on the affected side, but not as bad as I had thought, and not as bad as photos I've seen. It may have something to do with the supplement and diet protocol, as well as having been out of the sling early. The Dr had me out of the sling on day 3, only for short periods during the day while walking around my apartment, while working at my desk or while doing assisted passive ROM. I am almost certain he had me doing this since I had a lot of strength going into surgery. As a side note, if you're not athletic but following my log, I wouldn't follow what I am doing unless your Dr says so.

  9. Don't give up buddy!

  10. ART. Find a local practitioner and get in there asap. I get knotted up on my lower trap(ie. behind my shoulder blade/upper back) something fierce. It literally is like a golf ball. I get an ART session, and after that they have the massage lady work on it a bit, and I feel like a million bucks. If I keep up with it, like monthly appointments I never have issues. I actually just went last week and it has been a year.

  11. Thanks, I'd thought of that but wasn't sure if it'd be ok so soon post op. It would be my first option as well if the Dr clears it. I'll ask him, I should be seeing him sometime this week.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Thanks, I'd thought of that but wasn't sure if it'd be ok so soon post op. It would be my first option as well if the Dr clears it. I'll ask him, I should be seeing him sometime this week.
    Def clear it with him and make the Chiro aware of the surgery.

  13. Yeah, my atrophy was horrible after my repair. Took around 4 months to catch up with the other side. ART def would help with the adhesions but a good PT should be able to work them out. Keep doing what you're doing dude, sounds like you are ahead of the game right now.

  14. Oh, my PT has been working on them every session. He's even been using ultrasound on the knots that won't go away. I have to say I've never had knots like these before, they're huge and ultra persistent! I'm also massaging them daily and using the lacrosse ball a lot.

    The last couple days I've tried to really limit how much day to day stuff I'm doing with the arm, and it's been helping..also the magnesium oil is a lifesaver. Really helps to calm the areas when rubbing plenty on.

  15. Well I missed my PT appointment yesterday due to work, and can't get in to see him till next week since he's booked solid. Really sucks. Things were supposed to change this week too. I guess a week's delay won't be significant though.

    I've been a bit slack lately with the supplements except with the TB-500, Elastamine, SAMe, Androhard and Androdrive. Going to create a new protocol tonight and start the other peptides. I just need to get new slin pins. I'm also very tempted to run EQ for 16-20 weeks to aid the healing / recovery process (I'm on TRT, length isn't an issue as long as I give blood to lower hematocrit and drop RBC back down after). I have to keep reminding myself though that this is not a race. The DHT derivatives are supposedly great for collagen synthesis though.

  16. 7.5 Weeks Post-op - Tuesday May 22

    First day of adding strength training into my PT program! My ROM is almost back to normal, I'd say 80-90%. We started PT with heat, then abduction with the cane while laying down, then ROM (pullies). We then started exercises with the cable machine. Very light RC exercises. We started with 5 pounds external rotation, keeping elbow locked in and arm bent at 90%. Was a bit much so we lowered to 2.5pnds. I didn't want to push too much when starting strength training for the first time post op. I did 3 sets of 10 external rotation, 3 sets of 10 internal rotation. Then we 2 sets of 10 starting with arm internally rotated by opposite hip, then ending movement in abduction, arm up like I'm holding a sword. The movement is similar to unsheathing a sword and then holding up in the air (think reverse cable flies). We then moved onto cable rows 2 sets of 10 at only 10 pounds (using both hands, squeezing shoulders back). Our last movement was holding the cables high in front of me, one in each hand, then pushing down and behind me, squeezing shoulders back again (targeting the muscle between the shoulder blades). I'll get the proper name for each exercise and post later.

    We then did some Yoga, a couple poses and one sun movement. Not sure the names. After that I had a lot of body work done by the head PT. Told him about all the knots, and he fixed me up. He found an area that was causing problems, that I wasn't aware about. There's a spot where my lat attached to the ribs on the side, mid-back, which was CRAZY sore when he massaged. He focused on that for a while and did a lot of manipulation of my arm as well as massaged around the shoulder blade, triceps, bicep and delts as well. Feeling great today. I expected some pain from strength training, but everything is feeling great.


    TB-500 - 5mg per week
    SAMe - 600mg day (200 / 200 / 200)
    Twinlab Joint Fuel
    Androhard (4 caps)
    Androdrive (4 caps)

    Nothing too crazy supp wise at the moment, nothing compared to the first month - 5 weeks. Slacking on starting my CJC + ghrp's... they're really inconvenient due to multiple shots per day and timing away from carbs, plus I'm low on pins. Ordering more and will start next week. EQ/var is in my sights - maybe in the next month or two, since we've started strength training now. I think it would've been a waste before and the TB-500 should be doing it's thing right now anyhow.. if the progress is good as is, I may not go there though. I've tried deca once, but 19nor's don't interest me at all after that. Never again. Var/EQ is much better at it's intended purpose anyhow (connective tissue repair), and GH even better than those 2.

  17. Hey man I'm glad you updated today as I just came on to AM to ask how you were doing. I had my 8wk follow up with my surgeon yesterday and he gave me clearance to move my arm in any position and as much as I want. I am to use no resistance besides gravity when not in a PT session. Lifting my arm and moving it around again is an awesome feeling. I was almost scared to move it yesterday b/c I didn't know how it would feel, but it is great and pretty motivating. I have pretty good ROM which should only get better with time. I'm really anxious to hit the 12 and 16wk marks b/c then I'll really be able to do more. I'm glad things seem to be going well for you and hopefully those knots don't give you any more trouble.

  18. thanks for posting, definitely keep letting me know how things go. I'm at my surgeons office right now waiting for his checkup. I just saw my GP and my BP is way up! 136/105! I'm thinking it's due to the TB500, since I am already on cozaar for blood pressure. He gave me a light water pill to start taking with it.

    Its def a great feeling to be able to move the arm around again. I'm lucky to have almost full use of it again for day to day things. It feels fairly normal except for the occasional tweak if I move quickly with it or grab something quickly if I forget that it's injured. I can carry my laptop fine with that arm, pull on my shoes etc..

    I am really kicking myself for stopping cardio though. I've gained about 15 pounds in the last 2 months.. Can't believe I'm 250 pounds now. I've NEVER weighed that much. I can't really see a huge difference either. Def carrying a bit extra around the waist now though, but not a WHOLE lot more. I must carry the weight well? Either way, I'm getting on a low carb diet soon to shed water (lower blood pressure) and shed some fat.

  19. Just saw the surgeon. He's really impressed with how quick I've recovered. ROM is great, strength is normal (when doing resistance tests) and at 2 months post op! He called me the poster boy of recovery for this. I guess I made the right decisions on supps to take

    He told me to continue the strength traing in PT but not to hit heavy weights in the gym for a couple more months. I told him I'd be doing high rep stuff only when I start training upper body again, and he said 'sounds great'. I'll see him again in another month to see where I'm at. I can likely start high-rep upper body training then...not because I won't be able to lift heavy, but just to be protective. That's the name of the game.

    Heavy lower body training will continue though..

    BTW (adding onto the log for anyone following): the TB-500 calls to be injected sub-Q, but I've been shooting it directly into the affected shoulder (outer delt) IM, with a .5" pin. Just a technical note.

  20. Today marks 2 months post op!

    Since I've been recovering so well, therapy now has no limitations (as per Dr's comments). We are doing strength training via various methods now. Cables, bands (I'm using the strongest band they have), flexible body bar (quick side to side movements while holding it straight out, while the bar wobbles side to side rhythmically - this one is REAL tough and really burns) - we used various positions with the bar. We are still doing some yoga as well. The nots are slowly dissipating..I still need to ask if A.R.T is ok to do, but at this point I'd think it is. I'm really not in any pain though at all anymore though. Some tender spots, but still rolling them out against the wall with my lacrosse ball.

    I attribute the quick healing to the use of my cold compression ice machine in the weeks immediately after surgery ( I was EXTREMELY diligent with it, using it for hours daily) - and the good range of supps I've been taking, as well as the TB-500. One area I need to keep an eye on is the incision area on my bicep. I need to continuously massage it to prevent any adhesions with the tissues beneath it.

  21. 9 Weeks Post Op

    I am just over the 2 month mark, we've been strength training since week 7. Last week - my 2nd strength session, we dropped the cables, etc, and went straight to dumbells. I used 3,5, and 7 pound dumbells for various rotator cuff exercises, tricep extensions and bicep curls. He then did PNF for a while. The PNF felt like it will help a lot. But I've been very sore the days after, nothing severe, just nagging soreness. I have been icing/heating and rubbing magnesium oil on it, and take many supplements as well.

    I am also still working out on the regular. I work my core and lower body. I squat with the safety squat bar (w/ handles) and do GHR's, ham curls, etc. I am able to do pec deck now, but not the full range of motion, only 3/4 and no stretch... very important to keep it that way for now, and only low weight high reps... In 2 months I will be back to training fullbody, but I will not powerlift yet - instead I will focus on bodybuilding techniques which are easier on the body - volume training - high reps lower weight. Once I am ok'd to power lift again, I will start training with the conjugate method (Westside). I will use the current time to rebalance my frame/muscle balance, and improve conditioning.

    I am giving up supersetting and the like - this is too hard on the body and CNS/recovery. Check Defranco's site for info on someone who went through TONS of surgeries, and completely changed his training protocols to prevent future injuries:

    Training which address's hypertrophy, strength, mobility and function.


    The largest hurdle I forsee, will be the scapular area, infraspinatus, teres major, and side of neck. Strange I know, but these are supporting muscles. They are causing me the most issues right now. I spoke with others who are further down the road of reovery, and they said this is very intuitive, so for anyone reading, pay CLOSE attention to these areas!!


    I forgot to mention that I've changed my diet completely now to a Paleo diet, somewhat following the lean gains protocol. I am trying to lose the weight I gained during the first month of recovery when I wasn't moving.

  22. ~10 Weeks Post Op

    I had a Physical therapy session last Tuesday. We used the body bar on a bosu ball, doing the range of motion with it from opposite hip to up in the air (think sword in scabbard, to drawn sword) all while shaking it / wobbling it nonstop for 30 seconds, short break then repeating 3 times. This was challenging at first but once I found the rhythm with it, I was fine.

    We used 3,5,7 pound dumbbells again. 7 pound dumbbells for bicep curls, 3 sets of 20 each arm (easy). 7 pound dumbbells for overhead triceps extensions (easy). 5 pound for rotator cuff external rotation (bilateral). 3 pound dumbbells for front raises (easy).

    I threw in an extra set just because I felt I could.

    After all this we did PNF again, and then I had bodywork done (working out knots and such) and had some kinesio tape placed carefully on the traps and neck - the main area that's bothering me.

    This was 2 days ago. Today I feel great so I'm going for another session. I'm going to stick to 2 sessions per week, and if I feel fine after today's session, I will do these exercises on my own from home as well, with one day of recovery in-between.

    I never would have thought recovery would be moving this quickly after reading other logs. The atrophy is almost reversed now too, it's not bad at all.

    The only pain that I get now, once in a while, is around the incision on my bicep. I have to keep remembering to massage that area. The pain is likely due to adhesions.

    Just saw Prometheus at IMAX last night and it was f&*kng amazing. Can't wait for part II to answer some questions!!

    BTW, I'll see if I can take a photo of my PT chart and post on here to share.

  23. I'm 11wks post-op today and feeling pretty good. I'm only going to PT once a week b/c I started summer classes after work, but I do my normal routine at home 1 or 2 days in addition to the PT appt. Glad to hear everything is still going well for you. Keep up the good work man.

  24. Thanks. What do they have you doing now? Mainly AAROM and PROM? Watch that scapular area when you start strength training.

  25. This is what I do when I go in there:

    1. Lie on my back on a table and do stretches using a weighted stick (idk the real name, but last week I moved from 1lb to 3lb). stomach to behind the head (best way I can describe the motion lol), pushup motion, circles, side to side, etc. (all while holding the stick with both hands)
    2. Using a 1lb dumbell so far I do punches from that same position on my back and then sit up and do curls.
    3. Move onto the yellow band for rows, internal, and external rotation.
    4. front raises with thumbs up, front raises with thumbs down, all without weights or bands and all at a 45degree angle.
    5. 6 min on hand bike. 3min going forward and 3 min going backwards.
    6. Ice pack for 5-10min


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