Do you work Traps with Back or Shoulders?
- 03-22-2005, 10:09 PM
I do traps on Back day and I do traps on Shoulder day. Of course, I am in the minority here since I do them both on the same day. I get great results combining them. I really like to finish up with a homemade contraption our lead trainer made called The Shrugger. Its a metal C shaped frame when seen from above, with handles on the top left and right and rectangular bars sticking out each side. Seen from the side it looks like a large I shape. Advantage is ease of control and the ability to pile on the plates on each side.
- 03-28-2005, 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by bronx220
- 04-09-2005, 05:15 PM
04-14-2005, 01:24 PM
i work traps on back and shoulder days.....they are kinda lacking from the rest of my upper body so i am tryin to bring them up.
06-05-2005, 11:08 AM
06-05-2005, 09:42 PM
06-20-2005, 08:20 AM
07-25-2005, 10:53 AM
I like to mix it up, i used to always work traps with delts but over the past few months I have been working them on back day and its a nice change.
07-25-2005, 11:48 AM
I work traps with back personally but they aren't responding like they use to so I will now incorporate them with shoulders.
11-09-2005, 02:26 PM
Work them on shoulder days, do all your shoulder routine then work the hell out of the traps. Tends to workout nicely.
11-14-2005, 01:05 AM
I feel traps should be worked on back day or else you might just overtrain them. You could work them up to three times a week by using them on legs day through deadlifts, back day through any rowing movement, and again on shoulders day if you do them then. I would suggest doing them on back day and working them from top to bottom. The muscle does run from your first cirvical vertibrae all the way down to the 12th thoracic vertebrae. If you are training them right you wont just have the upper part but a solid mass of muscle running down the center of your back with a nice deep grove over your spine. The only other day to logically work them is on legs day just because you use them so much to do deadlifts. Also if you work them on back day you will effectly train the romboids major and minor, as well as the levator scapulae which all contribute to a full muscular looking back. The only reason i could think of for training them on shoulders day is that shoulder pressing elevates the scapula to allow more range of motion. The elevation of the scapula during shoulder press is somewhat similar to scapular elevation during upper trapezius flexion, but much shorter. I feel traps on back day are the way to go.Originally Posted by sourinthemind
12-09-2005, 04:23 PM
When I train my shoulders effectively I need to concentrate on NOT using my traps. SO I dont train them together. I train my traps with back and superset them at the end of my work out.
12-13-2005, 06:18 PM
I do medium heavy barbell shrugs....my traps blow up with just that on shoulder day...one of the few good genetics i have.
08-07-2006, 09:52 PM
09-18-2006, 03:32 PM
09-18-2006, 05:21 PM
I usually do them to finish off a back day, uprights and shrugs. But if my back day takes me to the 1.5 hr limit in the gym or im dead tired, I will do them on a day on its own with abs or cardio or shoulders. I rarely work shoulders separately now I feel I can hit them on chest and back days. Im actually considering doing shrugs 2x a week as they are lagging a lil. Finally, I get a better pump when i hit them at the end of a back workout.
I like what bronx220 said earlier:"the trapezius is a broad diamond shaped musclethat lies across your back. only 15% lies above your shoulder.soooooo since traps are a back muscle........."
09-18-2006, 05:25 PM
I train em rest pause style now hitting failure 3 times, and then a do a static rep for 30 seconds, we'll see how this works out, my traps need to come up, well my upper traps anyway, my back always grows thick n dense fast.
09-18-2006, 05:28 PM
same here as far as trap development. I need to bring up the upper traps, one of my friends were messing with me the other day and told me i need to work on my traps(upper) cause he said i dont want it to be a shelf do i? needless to say this motivates me.Originally Posted by CHAPS
09-18-2006, 05:31 PM
Behind the back barbell shrugs are my favourite, i don't like them to the front, and dumbbell shrugs but pulling them up and back at the same time so kinda on an angle.
09-18-2006, 05:38 PM
yah those are good and i feel it takes the arms out of it even more when you have the barbel in the rear dumbells the angle thing is what i shoot for too, i have yet to lay on a incline bench reverse and trying db shrugs that way, i heard it works great. Nothing like some heavy ass shrugs....its how i hit my forearms/grip too, just holding the bar tight is a workout for them.Originally Posted by CHAPS
09-18-2006, 05:43 PM
09-18-2006, 05:48 PM
have you tried shrugs that way? Im probably going to try that tonight. I have to look into farmers walk i cant recall it.Originally Posted by CHAPS
09-18-2006, 05:59 PM
I tried em that way but it felt awkward, i think pulling a cable low then up to your neck with a bar will hit them the same way.
09-18-2006, 07:49 PM
I don't train traps, just for traps, they get a work out with bent over rows, deadlifts, and I think that's enough, unless your traps don't grow, but seems they are one of the easy muscles to build up.
09-20-2006, 11:33 AM
I see more votes for training traps on shoulder day but fewer responses as to why.
I'd like to know the rationale.
As for me, I believe traps like calves should be trained with more frequency than other muscles becuase of the short penate structure of the fibers. Weight X Distance
On the other hand, enough cant be said about the benefits of olympic style lifts and their effects on the traps.
09-21-2006, 06:54 PM
Traps are retarded to train as a muscle group if you are working your back and shoulders our correctly. They should get worked with your deadlifts, rows, and military presses. No reason at all to do shrugs since it works 10% of that muscle anyway.
Originally Posted by MadJimF
sorry didn't read yours until after I posted
10-03-2006, 10:06 PM
I only work them once every two or three weeks, they tend to do well enough from all the other compound exercises.
10-24-2006, 10:03 AM
It just depends on my split... I've worked them on back day, shoulder day, arm day, and "misc" day.
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10-29-2006, 05:30 PM
I do mine with back , I shrug for my traps about 9 sets . I work up to about 7 plates on each side then work back down to 4 . And I promise theres not many people with traps like me. Besides pros.
12-05-2006, 05:49 PM
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