Good for a laugh... deadlifting and using straps - how NOT to do it.

[StangBanger]

Well... I only use straps when I have to on a deadlift. I prefer double overhand and after 295lb I put the straps on or I would not be able to lift over 300... now with straps I am pulling 400lbs... so I would be leaving 100lbs on the table without straps... sure I can over/under but I would rather double over.

[JajaNe20]

You don't have to stand up between each rep, although with heavier sets I prefer to.

However, you should regrip and reset hips, shoulder blades, and lower back. All too often I see people tapping the bar off the floor between reps, and the result is very negative indeed - hips elevate before shoulders, back round, and it becomes a dynamic spinal extension exercise versus a fixed spine hip extension movement.

Br

EDIT: No straps

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LoL really you had to go there with the edit wow.

[Resolve]

Well... I only use straps when I have to on a deadlift. I prefer double overhand and after 295lb I put the straps on or I would not be able to lift over 300... now with straps I am pulling 400lbs... so I would be leaving 100lbs on the table without straps... sure I can over/under but I would rather double over.

You're not really leaving 100lb on the table without straps, you're lifting a maximal load that your entire body as a unit can handle. Do you try to progress the load you can handle without straps before using them?

[ZiR RED]

LoL really you had to go there with the edit wow.

Haha..i'm teaching the muscular system this week in human bio and was looking for an old school pic of arnold as a cover page in my power point. Then I saw that and was like...yes i should!

[JajaNe20]

Haha..i'm teaching the muscular system this week in human bio and was looking for an old school pic of arnold as a cover page in my power point. Then I saw that and was like...yes i should!

Okay you can slide on this one for you had a valid reason! haha

[VolcomX311]

You don't have to stand up between each rep, although with heavier sets I prefer to.

However, you should regrip and reset hips, shoulder blades, and lower back. All too often I see people tapping the bar off the floor between reps, and the result is very negative indeed - hips elevate before shoulders, back round, and it becomes a dynamic spinal extension exercise versus a fixed spine hip extension movement.

Br

EDIT: No straps

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Quoted for truth and have been guilty of myself in the past.

[StangBanger]

You're not really leaving 100lb on the table without straps, you're lifting a maximal load that your entire body as a unit can handle. Do you try to progress the load you can handle without straps before using them?

Oh yes... dont get me wrong, I go as heavy as I can without straps before I use them... so slowly but surely my no strap weight is increasing. I just feel like I am missing out by not doing the sets with the straps.

[SweetLou321]

Hook grip

[Teddy21]

I used to use straps until I watched Andy Bolton dead 1000+ pounds without them. After a while I was able to pull my 1RM without them.

Just like any weakness in form or strength, be persistent in training and practicing it and it will become a strength, straps are just a short cut.

[Insidious1]

Haha..i'm teaching the muscular system this week in human bio and was looking for an old school pic of arnold as a cover page in my power point. Then I saw that and was like...yes i should!

LOL.. GREAT pic... And as soon as i saw it, i was like "damn! no straps.... " But perhaps they didnt have straps back then... I wasn't even born when that picture was taken, but i'm gonna play "devil's advocate" and say that he wasn't wearing straps because they werent around! LOL

[Resolve]

LOL.. GREAT pic... And as soon as i saw it, i was like "damn! no straps.... " But perhaps they didnt have straps back then... I wasn't even born when that picture was taken, but i'm gonna play "devil's advocate" and say that he wasn't wearing straps because they werent around! LOL

Well, if Arnold didn't need 'em, neither do you.

[VolcomX311]

Well, if Arnold didn't need 'em, neither do you.

Lol, what's with the new avi Nick? I feel like that whe I think bout pizza.

Maybe had Arnold had access to straps, Frank Zane wouldn't have beat him

[Resolve]

Lol, what's with the new avi Nick? I feel like that whe I think bout pizza.

Maybe had Arnold had access to straps, Frank Zane wouldn't have beat him

It's my bulking avi.

Zane didn't win, Arnold let him.

[VolcomX311]

It's my bulking avi.

Zane didn't win, Arnold let him.

Arnie was applying the socialist practices of his homeland at the Mr. O. It all makes sense now.

[Mafesto31]

I think straps are only good for multiple reps. A 1rm u should be able to handle with ur own grip strength(over under grip). I can pull 530 once without straps and barely hang on. No way could I do another rep, but with straps it would be no prob. I feel like I'm cheating but Damn it does pay off.

[jaycuda]

Hey Zir, I usually deadlift with a double overhand grip since I'm doing it to help with my clean pull. My deadlift is about 50 lbs lighter with out straps, so whenever I'm doing sets of 3 or less I use straps. Do you think I should keep using straps like this or no?

[ZiR RED]

If you are doing it to benefit your clean pull, then don't use straps. I think you should work to improve your grip strength so it matches your deadlift strength.

Br

[TateFTW]

I've always operated under the belief that you'll only get stronger if you address your weaknesses. Avoiding them isn't going to help you get any better. If the limiting factor in your bench is your inability to keep your shoudler blades retracted, then You'd do face pulls and rows. This isn't any different. If the limiting factor in your dead lifts is your grip, then why would you avoid making it stronger? The best thing you can do for your grip is to hold heavy stuff. The best way to hold heavy stuff is it do dead lifts with no straps. I guess I don't understand making a change that's going to actually keep a weakness from getting better.

I used to use straps when I did back stuff, to help me learn to take my arms out of the movements, but I fazed them out and now when I try to use them I find I have trouble moving the same weight. I believe this is because I was using too much arm before because they were stronger than my back muscles. My back muscles were the limiting factor in my lifts, so my arms were taking over. Straps didn't help. Doing rows helped, because the weakest muscles HAD to get stronger, since they were working the hardest on the movements.

If you've experimented both with and without straps and know how to use them on certain exercises for your specific goals, then that's another thing, but everyone should try everything without them so they know how they'll react.

As for the argument that bodybuilders can use them, I don't buy that. Get stronger and you'll build more muscle. That means building up your weaknesses just like a strength athlete. If you want an excuse to use straps because it lets you pull more and look cooler then go for it, but don't try to convince me that keeping part of you weak is making another part stronger.

[StangBanger]

well if you see, I lift without them for as much as I can and only use them when I want to rep beyond my grip strength... slowly but surely my grip strength is improving so I see no reason to not use them on my last 1 or 2 heaviest sets.

[TateFTW]

I'm not sure why you want to build your grip slowly. How much faster would it catch up if you gave it the stimulus by dropping the straps?

That being said, I'm sure you have a plan about how to use straps for your goals, which would put you in the category of the third paragraph in my other post;

"If you've experimented both with and without straps and know how to use them on certain exercises for your specific goals, then that's another thing, but everyone should try everything without them so they know how they'll react."