GET BIG ARMS
- 07-01-2010, 08:57 PM
GET BIG ARMS
Been training for 22 years now and would have to say this new product called Grip4orce that I picked up from the Arnold Classic has made arm day insane. I'm now getting pumps like never before.
You can't see it visually but these hand held Grip4orce attachments has resistance built inside, pretty crazy. Also I've noticed my strength has gone up when I go back to the normal bars. Typically I straight bar curl 135 for 10-12 reps now 18-20 reps in only four months.
- 07-01-2010, 09:02 PM
I don't know what you're talking about, but 135 for 18-20 reps is pretty sweet.
- 07-04-2010, 01:42 AM
35bucks.. WHat a rip! Ill wait a bit till they make an off brand clone for 10bucks, ha!
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
35 is not expensive. Its cheaper than most supplements that won't even come close strength gain wise. However, I'm assuming it does work for most people. I ordered them to try them out.
07-09-2010, 05:49 PM
Talk about timing. FedEx just dropped them off. I got the stiff kind. I'm not impressed with the quality. I am going to send them back.
One of them appear to be defective.
07-10-2010, 12:05 AM
Really, what's up with them? Two of my buddies picked some up last month and they work perfect for them. One has the stiff and my other dude has the regular. I have both sets. I use the reg. on pull day and the stiff on push day. Did u try them out though?
07-12-2010, 10:58 PM
I have contacted them and they said they are shipping me new set.
Basically one of them was fine. I ordered the stiff kind. The other, I could fold it with two fingers easy and the blck plastic was seperated from the core as if it was pealed or not glued right. It is just a defective set and I will wait for the replacement to come.
The good one looks pretty good. what I have noticed from trying it out on its own is that when you squeeze it to get a hold of the bar, your wrist automatically locks and doesn't bend much. I like that.
07-13-2010, 06:00 PM
Have you tried FAT GRIPZ? I love them.
I will work for supplements!
07-13-2010, 10:51 PM
No haven't yet. I hearded a lot good things about them.
07-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Ok I got the new set and they look solid. I will try to use them tonight.
07-21-2010, 07:22 AM
Whilst I fought against it for years and used chalk, I was bought a pair of lifting gloves by my ex girlfriend (she said it was for 'safety', I think it was mainly to reduce my calluses...). Best present I have ever been bought! My curling has never been stronger, arms are growing nicely and even when I forget my gloves my grip has dramatically improved.
I'd definitely recommend them to anyone, just smack the wankers who call you a poof for wearing them
07-21-2010, 08:23 AM
Here's a study that suggests that increasing the diameter of a bar doesn't really affect neuromuscular activation:
h ttp://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18520435
It was done using an isometric bench press, so there's no way to tell if it would improve curls, deads, rows, etc, but it is food for thought.
07-21-2010, 11:39 AM
07-22-2010, 05:01 PM
these gov. investigation can't determine a isometric bench as an effective way to target the neuromuscular strength.(those guys are nerds) Plus they were only holding the bar not squeezing. The fact is out there and just ask any professional coach or gym rat that have devoted the time at training that way and they'll tell you thick bars work bottom line.
07-22-2010, 05:05 PM
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07-26-2010, 05:39 PM
I've used them few times so far. I can't use them on all workouts because my forearms start killing me. overall, I love the fat grip and when I squeeze them to hold the dumbells, my wrist becomes pretty stable. I need to build more strength in my forearms to utilize them more often though... My forearms start burning after few workouts and cannot keep up.
I mainly use them on biceps workouts now. Can't say about increase in strength, but I can see them doing that with involving the entire arm (biceps and forearms) in the workout and having to squeeze throughout the rep to keep hold of them.
They are pricy, so I can't recommend them unless you can afford them and want to try them out.
07-26-2010, 05:43 PM
07-26-2010, 05:44 PM
I found the thicker grip more comfortable on some workouts than the standard bar size. Some other workouts however, I had to take them off to get better grip.
As for the strength gains, my assumption is due to needing to squeeze the stiff kind to grip the bar or dumbells. This causes tention in the entire arm while doing the reps. The research covers bar size, but not the extra squeezing throughout the workout. Does it produce more strength? I don't know because it is too early for me to say and my strength is going up anyway before I used them.
09-03-2010, 05:20 PM
So what would be better for hand strength and over all size in arms the fat gripz or the grip force?
09-03-2010, 05:21 PM
09-04-2010, 12:24 AM
You would go with something that just lays in your hand, Grip4orce was truly made to develop stronger hands through making you squeeze. The stiff flex are insane...I should know I own both sets. Just gave my fatgripz to my dog.
09-05-2010, 11:28 AM
im considering buying the grip4orce and im not sure which to get the stiff flex or regular flex. I would like to purchase the stiff flex grip for the stronger resistance but im worried there might be too much resistance. Did anyone try the stiff flex grip?
09-05-2010, 03:08 PM
I just checked out their site. Cool stuff and ill be ordering some and trying them out. Im goin to order a pair of reg. and stiff, each in different colors. I think you might have to build up to the stiff and in the case you get too fatigued during a workout, just switch to reg. and then to just the bar itself.
09-06-2010, 09:35 AM
The various products out there that increase the diameter of the bar work pretty well, but not necessarily for the reasons people initially think. I have used both tyler grips and fat gripz. I found very little difference on pressing exercises. This could be due to my form being fairly dialed in, but I have not ever taken a heavy weight with them, just rep work.
Where I did find a massive difference is with curls (reverse grip curls get NASTY with these things) and any rowing exercise. Part of it will depend on how you lift. Let me explain...
If you lift with slow, sustained force production, you won't notice as much of a difference. If you generate a ton of force, i.e. you're explosive, these things will change your world. The reason being is that if you're doing a dumbbell row, and you usually haul on the 'bell intially, you're putting huge force on the db handle and it decelerates to the top of the movement. Try that with a much larger diameter bar handle and your hand will just peel off, which forces you to pull slowly and steadily, which will feel completely different.
I use them from time to time, I found my body adapted to them in 3-4 weeks I was doing pretty much the same weights (not with reverse grip curls though, those are game changers). Nice training tool to work in from time to time.
09-06-2010, 12:24 PM
WHAT is a slow sustained force production???? Bottom line the only way to make thick bars work is by applying force with you hands to the bar, that means squeeze. If thats not being done your not working your grip or activating all the muscles in the arms. Make a soft fist, then make a white knuckle fist (squeeze hard). Now put some resistance behind that white knuckle fist. It's not rocket science, it's just the facts
Grip4orce delivers plan and simple
09-06-2010, 05:14 PM
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11-22-2010, 09:17 AM
A guy at the gym was using the grapplegrips the other day. we got talking and he let me try them. I think he said something about one and a half grips. anyway I dont know what to think as I only used them for a few rep then play around for a few different things. they felt weird but that cause I have never used them before. I wish I could spend more time with them before I say I want them but I dont know the guy. Anyone with a opinion chime in on this I want to know more.
11-22-2010, 09:35 AM
The grapple grip would be way too limited. You can't do any major compound pushing lift with them (e.g. dips, presses) and would be a major pain in the ass to use. I have been using my Fat Gripz for about 4 months and couldn't be happier.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
02-01-2011, 10:56 PM
The Grapple Grip and Fat gripz are like apples and oranges. From the education you have posted I would assume you would know this. Let me say that the fat gripz concept is a good one because it allow's you to use conventional exercises with a wider diameter bar. Were the Grapple Grip differs is the angle, I am a grappler, the angle in which I would grab a wrist, ankle arm etc is the same angle as the Grapple Grip provides, plus the Grapple Grip comes in different sizes. I love my Grapple Grip, it changes everything for me, body builders might not like them but as a functional athlete I can say the Grapple Grip helps me on the mat. I would recommend them to anyone, but I would not say only use the Grapple Grip I would say use it all, why limit your self to equipment, the only reason I can see is if you lack the concept in which it promotes
02-02-2011, 06:37 AM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
02-02-2011, 03:49 PM
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