My proposed workout Routine(HardGainer)
- 12-26-2003, 03:16 PM
My proposed workout Routine(HardGainer)
Ok. Here is what I am planning on for my next workout routine. Please critic. I will be using M-1T, 4-ad cyp. Eating like a PIG, etc.
improve previous by 5lbs or 2 reps
rest/pause - rep till failure - pause - repeat till total REMEMBER TO STRETCH
day one weight/rep weight/rep weight/rep weight/rep
close grip bench press
- 12-26-2003, 03:21 PM
12-27-2003, 08:40 AM
12-27-2003, 08:44 AM
Leg Curls 3x6-10
Calf Raises 3x8-15
Seated DB Military Press 4x4-8
DB Side Laterals 2x8-12
DB Bent Over Raises 2x8-12
Wednesday-Chest, Biceps, Traps
Flat DB Press 4x4-8
Incline DB Press 4x6-10
Cable Crossovers 3x8-12
EZ Bar Curls 4x4-8
Alternating Hammer Curls 2x8-16 (4-8 each arm)
DB Shrugs 3x8-12
Lat Pulldowns 4x4-8
Bent Over EZ Bar Rows 3x6-10
Rope Pushdowns 2x8-12
12-29-2003, 08:58 AM
12-29-2003, 08:10 PM
12-30-2003, 12:15 AM
12-31-2003, 01:06 AM
For a hardgainer routine, What I would change,
Day One would do (in this order):
Day 3 I would do either or the hammer curls or bb/db curls but not both.
And the comment that was made about doing deads with legs, some people's lower backs just cant recover enough training lower back directly on upper back day, then indirectly from heavy squats, Myself included, I could never pull more than 405 for reps with years of training deads with upper back, since I grouped deads with legs, my deads have improved unbelievably...suprises me even on some days..lol..
One of the reasons I started training deads with legs, was after watching and conversing with a few PL's who do just that, one in particular who now holds the IPF world record in his class in the bench, who by chance trains at the same gym as I and you legaljuicer
Last edited by Stroyer; 12-31-2003 at 01:49 AM.
01-02-2004, 10:25 PM
01-02-2004, 11:01 PM
My personal experience with both traditional volume training and hardgainer training leads me to disagree that it's a myth.
Have you read the 90+ pages of the "cycles on pennies" thread at animal's site? Have you personally tried a hardgainer routine?
01-03-2004, 04:13 PM
01-03-2004, 06:06 PM
Everybody has different recuperative abilities. Being an ecto and lifting for 20 years, I know that anything more than 6 sets per bodypart will cause me to overtrain within a few months. I actually made better progress on the Mentzer/Brawn type of workouts compared to volume training. Then you have guys in the gym 1-2 hours and then going back the next day.
01-03-2004, 08:11 PM
01-04-2004, 11:30 AM
Obviously eveyone has different recup. abilities. The problem with the hardgainer type routines is they generally keep people undertrained. I have tried their training and I got smaller and weaker. I gave it 2 years and followed everything to a t. It didn't help me at all.
01-04-2004, 01:58 PM
If you got smaller or weaker, either you didn't trained max effort, or you under-eat. There is no way to get smaller and weaker on a hardgainer routine if you follow it and hit it hard and rest.
01-04-2004, 07:32 PM
If a hardgainer routien is done properly and diet is in check you should have good progress. I have been doing variations of hardgainer routiens for almost a year now and have made very good progress with it on and off gear.
01-05-2004, 02:02 AM
Funny, I'm getting bigger and stronger on it. So are other people. It's as simple as that.Originally Posted by Future
01-05-2004, 08:06 AM
01-05-2004, 08:07 AM
01-05-2004, 08:08 AM
The only time I made ok progress was when I was using it to recover in between other training cycles. And basically anything works when you are on gear...well within reason.Originally Posted by Griffin
01-05-2004, 12:09 PM
That's cool. All I'm saying is everyone's different. So no need to knock something that DOES work for certain people.Originally Posted by Future
01-05-2004, 12:17 PM
01-05-2004, 12:30 PM
How about getting this thread back on track and helping Legaljuicer with his hardgainer routine?
01-06-2004, 07:06 AM
I agree.Originally Posted by tatortodd
How about this:bench/dip close grip bench press military/dumbbell press
Bench Press (Flat or Decline)2-3 work sets
Incline dumbell Presses (need to hit the pec minor)2 work sets
Dips bwtxfailurex2-3 sets
**too many pressing movements can be hard on the rotators
day offSquat? how many sets? I would do about 8-10 setsday two squat deadlift calf raise abs
Maybe stiff Legged Deads (4-6 sets)
Calves are good (8 sets)
LOTS OF ABS
day offBarbell Rowsday three pull-down row barbell/dumbell curl hammer curl
Close Grip Pulldowns
Chins--if these are hard just do negatives with them
Preacher Dumbell Curls--hits the bi the best
Hammers--great for brachs! and grip
Just be sure to hit the muscle hard with enough sets. Some of the workouts may seem like too much but not when you consider that you are generally only doing 2-3 actually sets to failure. For example, squats I listed for 8-10 sets but that INCLUDES warm ups and down sets. Down sets are nice to help you from getting too sick when working a large bodypart of just do some light cardio afterward.
01-06-2004, 07:38 AM
Squats+Deadlifts+M1T= BAD THINGS. Trust me, your lower back will hurt so bad you'll want to crawl in a hole and die.Originally Posted by sikdogg
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