Best Excersises for "WINGS" ??
- 12-16-2003, 09:03 AM
- 12-16-2003, 10:51 AM
12-16-2003, 10:57 AM
12-16-2003, 12:25 PM
12-16-2003, 12:56 PM
12-16-2003, 01:11 PM
I never do pullups. When I have I can only get 6-7 at a time. Is that on ok rep range? I'll start doing them if it is.
12-16-2003, 01:19 PM
12-16-2003, 01:21 PM
Ya that is fine. When I got back from Iraq I was down to two due to now strength training for four months. My strength went back up in no time.
12-17-2003, 12:14 AM
u can have someone hold ur ankles while ur doing them to give a little extra assistance if u would rather do a higher rep range.
12-17-2003, 12:27 AM
If you can only do a few chins at a time - try this:
Do as many as you can. Now stop for 30 - 60 seconds and repeat until you get to 30. After a few weeks, you should be able to do 3 sets of 10 with 2 minutes rest in between. As soon as that becomes easy, start adding weight. And dont forget to STRETCH those lats, bend at the waist and pull on a pole or something that wont move on arm at a time.
12-17-2003, 01:29 AM
absolutely agree... im always the most sore after doing these and thats using the same exact volume as a day where i would do pullDOWNSOriginally Posted by Matthew D
12-17-2003, 06:35 AM
12-17-2003, 06:56 AM
I read this tip from the guy who trains a lot of pro's like Ronnie Colman and such. I forget his name, I found the link to his site somewhere on bodybuilding.com. Before your work sets, do a pre-exhaust with either dumbell pullovers or straight arm cable pullovers, then go right into your heavy set of Barbell rows or whatever. I think he said you don't wanna go all out on the pullovers but still use a decent amount of weight and intensity. I've been doing it ever since. For my first three sets of my back workout for the past month and a half I do 5 reps and 5 reps of really heavy straight arm cable pullovers and 5 reps of heavy bent over barbell rows, superset fashion. The first time I tried this I was amazed by the pump I got. I felt like one of those guys in the movies trying to walk like they're all swole, but i wasn't trying. I've used this for my first 3 sets for at least my last 6 back workouts, adding weight every week, and have definitely noticed that my back has grown. Like I said, the trainer guy said not to go all out on the pulldowns, but I've had good results using a 5RM, or close to it. I can't get 5 with good form on my third set. Try this out, and I guarantee you'll like it.
12-17-2003, 06:59 AM
And pullups are definitely the ****, but I can't do them right now (6 months post-op Left shoulder rotator cuff surgery (Bankhardt)). I was a big fan of neutral grip pullups when I could do them.
12-17-2003, 11:44 AM
im tellin ya i got the best width with weighted pullups. far superior to anything else as far as im concerned......
take it easy...
12-21-2003, 06:10 AM
12-26-2003, 08:33 PM
Those are all great suggestions, but a wide back is NOTHING if it isn't thick enough. One word my friends...DEADLIFT.
Deadlift, and deadlift HEAVY and the back of your dreams shall be yours quite soon.
12-27-2003, 10:48 AM
Bump again on MatD's reply.Originally Posted by RaulJimenez
ever see Arnold back in his prime day? that was one of his favorite exercises, and he could have probably glided to a safe landing w/ his "wings"
he supposedly did 50per day, try that!
12-27-2003, 10:51 AM
yeah man that's ok. i started out only doing that much, and now i do 3 sets of 20-25reps. once you start to work those muscles they strengthen pretty quick.Originally Posted by candle25
01-02-2004, 10:37 PM
Barbell rows, seated rows and pulldowns. Avoid wide grips as the are potential dangerous on the pec and rotator cuff.
01-03-2004, 12:15 PM
2 words, DEADLIFTS and BARBELL ROWS. Nothing can work the back as much as those two exercises. Of course, you want to add some other staples in there as well like Seated & DB Rows on some back training days as well.
01-03-2004, 01:54 PM
01-05-2004, 11:10 AM
01-05-2004, 07:23 PM
A bodybuilder friend of mine told me for his lats (wings) he took a v-bar (if that's what you call it) the one you use for the seated rows, and throw it over the pull-up bar and do pull-ups that way. Man, my lats have never felt that sore!
01-11-2004, 12:44 AM
01-11-2004, 12:46 AM
02-04-2004, 03:58 AM
deadlifts first, there is no glory in it but you will gain mass all up your back.
I do bent over rows,dumbell and barbell,good form and within my weight range to insure that, but the most pump i have ever had in my lats were doing maximum intensity
machine pullovers. get the right weight to where you can do 8 or so and pyramid up.
the advantage to those are the squeeze you get in your lats at the very end of the movement the last 6 inches or so that you dont get with barbell or dumbell bench pullovers.
Some people prefer the standing straight arm version but I cant do the weight
or get the pump that you can get from the seated pullover machine.
i went a year doing 5 movements only and close grip pulldowns was one of them.
02-07-2004, 06:37 PM
at my school we have these rubberbands, which we use kind of like chains, but also we use them as a pullup assist, they take like 50 lbs off so you can pump out 25 widegrips with relative ease, and then you can move down to a smaller band size. It works great for big guys like me that can usually get a good.... 5 or so haha. Also bent over rows are really good.
02-07-2004, 09:11 PM
02-14-2004, 09:06 AM
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