Strength Theory

[t-bone2]

I just mean we are equally clueless about the number of people with that low BF%.

No. You were willing to make a wager that 1% of some population that you still haven't identified. I asked the poster if he believes there are no people with kids (or, more directly, people who get wakened during their sleep) who are at 10% BF or below. I know for a fact that there are greater than zero. You have no idea as to the veracity of 1% of whatever population you were referring to. Rather, you just threw out a number.

[t-bone2]

But lets get back to your claims, 'cause I'd like to understand if you're just spouting out anecdotal BB lore or if you have a way to back them up.

A japanese study done, claimed a 147% increase in test levels when not ejaculating for 7 days. No further increase was found after 7 days.

Erections supposed boost test, but it plateau's when you get off.

Close. Actually, I think that you are referring to the study done at Hangzhou College in China, not Japan, and published in 2002 and 2003. Both studies are rather obscure based on their abstracts.

There is also a different study on this topic in which participants abstaining for three weeks showed elevated levels of testosterone. Anyone here want to abstain for three weeks 'cuz they ain’t growin’…?

Divanil aka stinging nettle root increases free test by bing with SHGB. Activate Xtreme is a good divanil product.

I know it is DS’ claim for Activate Xtreme, but the published research shows Urtica dioica to be used primarily in the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia. I’d like to see the research, not the marketing/sales pitch. Otherwise I think that the effects of nettle root, like other supplements (horny goat weed, for example), are anacdotal at best. So, please post references to research that supports this.

Higher fat diet with Monosaturated fats, and Saturated fats has been shown to increase test, as well as whole eggs.

Well, whole eggs only have ~2 g saturated fat per egg, so how does that help in a higher fat diet? The cholesterol perhaps or something other than the fat content…? Also, will eating a higher fat diet overcome the hormonal deficiencies of someone who is having trouble gaining muscle?

Plenty of sleep, and low stress.

Where is the line of demarcation for amount of sleep required? Is total hours more important than sleep state (Slow Wave Sleep, for example) or time of sleep (day vs. night)? How does that affect cortisol?

[JohnnyBGood]

a very intriguing topic indeed. What I'm noticing is that the topic is highly debateable, and it's difficult to answer these questions through observation alone. All this uncertainty is undesirable if one is fed-up with not growing. AAS are known to work. Even people with naturally high t levels resort to steroid use because it constitutes a shortcut.

As we all know, sleep and cortisol control became less important for people on cycle. It's just easier to add strength and muscle while "on." I guess what I'm getting at here is... how much more time, effort, and self-experimentation does it take to successfully address without steroids these hormone "deficiencies" to which the OP points as the reason for stalled muscle gains? We can't even isolate a universally successful protocol for accomplishing this task. AAS are universally successful in accomplishing their tasks.

[raginfcktard]

whats your take on genetic limitations? lack of sleep and rest can fall back of improper diet which was thought to be perfect. could just be another vicious circle!