lifts to avoid
- 11-05-2008, 09:52 AM
- 11-06-2008, 10:40 PM
shoulder presses shouldnt be avoided, just dont bring below 90 degrees. behind-the-back shoulder/lat work should be avoided, as these exercises put the shoulder in a precarious situation. and uprights. . .upright rows? i dont believe that they do more damage than good
- 11-06-2008, 10:44 PM
11-06-2008, 11:00 PM
If a lift does more damage than good, it's because you're doing it wrong. Military press is a fantastic movement and so are upright rows.
Sounds like someone who believes "squatting is bad for the knees" has been getting to ya!
11-07-2008, 11:39 AM
11-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Nope, sorry, squats aren't bad for the knees unless done improperly. Studies on olympic lifters and powerlifters haven't shown any increase in knee damage among those populations, even though they may load up the bar with several time their body weight on a regular basis.
It's actually movements like smith-machine squats or leg extensions that may be associated with knee damage, as they impede natural course of motion for the leg and force a specific, unnatural pattern.
11-07-2008, 09:47 PM
Your knees natural course of motion is squatting, so stating that the exercise is bad for your knees is mostly thought because of poor form, which resulted in knee damage/injury.
Actually, ATG squats have been show to have positive results with biomechanical function of the knee, surpassing 90-degree or parallel squats.
Just some thoughts.
Dangerous exrcises when done improperly:
Narrow-grip upright rows
Behind head pulldown/press (both these are stressful on the susprinatus, major RC muscle).
Leg extensions (knees)
11-07-2008, 11:23 PM
my bad, i figured i would post this. found it on my travels digging up the truth about squatting. haha. but yeah, i have had at least two of my professors say that squats were bad for your knees. i actually brought it up in class one time because i thought, and had heard, that squats were fine and were a completely natural movement. I was just operating under the assumption that my university professors, with their doctorates and years of experience, would be right. go figure
11-08-2008, 01:57 AM
11-08-2008, 04:02 AM
11-10-2008, 07:16 AM
Doing should presses behind the head is harmful to the rotator cuffs. Push presses put excess strain on the back because it haws to stabilize a big load in a somewhat unnatural way.
11-10-2008, 12:58 PM
Logically squats are bad cause the weight/stress that CAN be loaded on the knees if improperly done like stated above. ATG mid to wide foot range FTW!
11-10-2008, 01:06 PM
well i guess then ill keep doing my shoulder presses then. i would hate to stop since i make such great gains..i was told dips also were bad cause of the stress put on the shoulders and upper chest..im 29yrs and have been lifting since i was 14 and havent ever had any probs with any exercise..
11-10-2008, 01:10 PM
11-10-2008, 01:25 PM
So, is it safe to say that it is one's best interest to avoid leg presses? Or, is there an actual safe way to do the presses without messing up your knees? What about hack squat?
11-10-2008, 08:14 PM
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