So I'm reading a thread and some guy is talking about how "only p***ies use machines. Real men use free weights." I've seen this plenty of times but I'm finally tired of it. I just wanted to bring up a point. Does anyone here know who was the man who really made these machines so popular? He invented God knows how many machines. And this guy was no p***y. His name was Arthur Jones. He flew planes during WWII, after which he started catching wild animals for a living to sell to zoos and what not (including gorillas, gators, snakes, etc). While living in Rhodesia he was bitten by animals, shot twice, and axed. That's right, I said AXED! But he just kept on going. He didn't live there because he had too. He lived there because he wanted to. He wasn't going to let some stupid civil wars tell him where he could or couldn't live. He is the man responsible for nautilus and MedX. His sons are the creators of hammer strength, bowflex, soloflex, all that. I suggest you read up about this guy (he has an autobiography) and rethink your idea of what a p***y is. Cause this guy was probably tougher than any person on this board. I can almost guarantee it. He created these workout machines that "only p***ies use." If a real man created it, a real man can use it. The only p***y is the guy who doesn't take advantage of a good thing because he's afraid people will make fun of him and he'll be emasculated. I'm not saying everyone should go out and do a workout using nothing but machines. I know I don't. I only use a couple machines here and there. But machines have advantages over free weights sometimes. It's time to be a man. Do what's best for your body, not best for your ego.