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    I tend to keep up with what there is demand for. Lots of companies put out redundant products. Two things I know are heavily requested by the Supp community are:

    A transdermal Epiandrosterone(stanodrol). I'd like to see this with some DHEA. Maybe 75mg.

    A natural PDE-5 inhibitor. I know you have Natty-V, but a product with a 50+% Icariin extract would be nice. Icariin has some body building properties too.

    These would easily put EBF on the map.

    Just look at what BPS did with Dermacrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes
    I tend to keep up with what there is demand for. Lots of companies put out redundant products. Two things I know are heavily requested by the Supp community are:

    A transdermal Epiandrosterone(stanodrol). I'd like to see this with some DHEA. Maybe 75mg.

    A natural PDE-5 inhibitor. I know you have Natty-V, but a product with a 50+% Icariin extract would be nice. Icariin has some body building properties too.

    These would easily put EBF on the map.

    Just look at what BPS did with Dermacrine.
    I want to stay away from ropicals for now

    Icariin with osthole aids thyroid function.

    As far as bodybuilding properties I haven't noticed much aside from a little pump.

    Maybe I need to dose higher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    I tend to keep up with what there is demand for. Lots of companies put out redundant products. Two things I know are heavily requested by the Supp community are:

    A transdermal Epiandrosterone(stanodrol). I'd like to see this with some DHEA. Maybe 75mg.

    A natural PDE-5 inhibitor. I know you have Natty-V, but a product with a 50+% Icariin extract would be nice. Icariin has some body building properties too.

    These would easily put EBF on the map.

    Just look at what BPS did with Dermacrine.
    Looks like Prototype fulfilled your request.
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    How is everything going over here?
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    Things are great. Added in another ingredient yesterday. Will test for 3 weeks on strength and muscle fullness. The. I'll add a fourth ingredient.

    Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.

    Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.

    I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc
    Things are great. Added in another ingredient yesterday. Will test for 3 weeks on strength and muscle fullness. The. I'll add a fourth ingredient.

    Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.

    Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.

    I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Things are great. Added in another ingredient yesterday. Will test for 3 weeks on strength and muscle fullness. The. I'll add a fourth ingredient.

    Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.

    Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.

    I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
    I'm glad to hear it is going well. I'm looking forward to this having a few bottles right on my counter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Things are great. Added in another ingredient yesterday. Will test for 3 weeks on strength and muscle fullness. The. I'll add a fourth ingredient.

    Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.

    Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.

    I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
    I just gotta bump for the good people of Anabolic Minds.
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    Thanks buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    I just gotta bump for the good people of Anabolic Minds.
    Thanks bud.
    Zach is a busy man the mad chemist he is

    Lookin forward to this new muscle builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Thanks bud.
    Zach is a busy man the mad chemist he is

    Lookin forward to this new muscle builder
    I'm recovering from surgery, and I'm an Olympic lifting. I definitely want to give this a go to get to where I was before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    I'm recovering from surgery, and I'm an Olympic lifting. I definitely want to give this a go to get to where I was before.
    Definitely man. Get well soon. Still need to add an ingredient
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Definitely man. Get well soon. Still need to add an ingredient
    Thanks! I'll be waiting for it!
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    Hey EBF,

    Just my couple week check up. How's it coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore
    Hey EBF,

    Just my couple week check up. How's it coming?
    Things good

    I been playing with l dopa. That one is hard to get a nice dose I like pre workout

    I have 2 extracts I been playing with. One drags me down post workout. But gives a better workout

    The other not so much. May have to remove it and look into another ingredient

    There definitely needs to be an ai

    Gotta find one I like that's herbal with some science behind it
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Things good

    I been playing with l dopa. That one is hard to get a nice dose I like pre workout

    I have 2 extracts I been playing with. One drags me down post workout. But gives a better workout

    The other not so much. May have to remove it and look into another ingredient

    There definitely needs to be an ai

    Gotta find one I like that's herbal with some science behind it
    Sounds like you have some ideas brewing. I think Natty has experimented with L-Dopa preworkout, and he said that he enjoyed it. With what you just said, I'm assuming you are still trying to have the dosing be preworkout and one other time?
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    Yea I found the one extract I liked but may take too much capsule room. It 15% extract.

    Ive been on te osthole a while. Need consistent food intake on that bc if cals drop your dropping weight and getting leaner even at a little surplus

    I also found it needs an ai. Nothing too strong tho.

    We will see what comes of it
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    What is causing the need for an ai?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore
    What is causing the need for an ai?
    From what I experience either the length of time I've been on it or the dose.

    But the dose was fine the first couple months. Just added the ai and ha libido and my member up and running crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    From what I experience either the length of time I've been on it or the dose.

    But the dose was fine the first couple months. Just added the ai and ha libido and my member up and running crazy
    Of osthole, correct?

    High libido...always a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    Of osthole, correct?

    High libido...always a good thing.
    Yes. And strength is great.

    Filled out a lot on my muscle groups for pressing exercises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Yes. And strength is great.

    Filled out a lot on my muscle groups for pressing exercises.
    I'm glad you're responding well to it. I've been reading on osthole on examine.com. Definitely pretty interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    I'm glad you're responding well to it. I've been reading on osthole on examine.com. Definitely pretty interesting.
    Anything you see post in here
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Anything you see post in here
    I definitely will.
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    Zach is it time to blame Chris for the delays yet?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invycktus
    Zach is it time to blame Chris for the delays yet?

    Thanks.
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    What's goin on invy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invycktus
    Zach is it time to blame Chris for the delays yet?

    Thanks.
    Nope. All my issue. Have more alpha testing.

    Been playing with stuff. It's going to be new twist on old ingredients but work for muscle building, recomping and maintenance.

    But a lot goes into how I test , diets ect
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Nope. All my issue. Have more alpha testing.

    Been playing with stuff. It's going to be new twist on old ingredients but work for muscle building, recomping and maintenance.

    But a lot goes into how I test , diets ect
    Up close, and personal testing. That's how I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    Up close, and personal testing. That's how I like it.
    Dedicated to bringing the best quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Dedicated to bringing the best quality
    Definitely much appreciated.

    I think you should keep going with L-Dopa. Really interested in a pre-workout dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore

    Definitely much appreciated.

    I think you should keep going with L-Dopa. Really interested in a pre-workout dose.
    L dopa and cnidium are very interesting compounds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    L dopa and cnidium are very interesting compounds...
    I've been doing some reading on both. Some pretty neat studies on pubmed.
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    Osthole and PPARy expression
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Osthole and PPARy expression
    I'll read up on it. Thanks
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    Maybe try throwing some fenugreek(testofen) in the mix. Hunger and libido should be off the charts.

    I like the addition of L-Dopa too. Have you tried any higher extracts? Maybe 70% or even 98%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes
    Maybe try throwing some fenugreek(testofen) in the mix. Hunger and libido should be off the charts.

    I like the addition of L-Dopa too. Have you tried any higher extracts? Maybe 70% or even 98%.
    I have not. I like having more of the constituents as they are shown to aid with testosterone
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    I guess a higher extract would gear more towards prolactin control.

    Either way, a muscle builder that aided in libido/erection quality sounds killer to me.
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    There needs to be a natural ai in there. Looking for one i like
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    DIM?
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    7-Methoxyflavone
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    White Button Mushroom
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