What do YOU want to see next from EBF
- 08-14-2012, 05:59 AM
- 08-14-2012, 10:29 AM
If using k r ala, would there be a need for biotin?...:::Olympus Labs Rep:::...Crossfit - DEMIGOD -
- 08-14-2012, 01:03 PM
Seems you guys run on a low budget, or is it all about keeping it affordable?
I payed $30 for a bottle of Recompadrol which is ****ing out of this world awesome when it comes to prices. I'd be willing to pay upwards of $50 if a product warants it, though.
08-14-2012, 01:20 PM
08-14-2012, 01:25 PM
Keeping it affordable is my main thing. Asa supplement user if I have to pay 40 or over for a product I wouldn't use it. I would of it lasted over a month thoOriginally Posted by Ape McGrapes
I am looking into a number of different options for recompadrol v2.
I'm going to remove the vs aminoguanidine and half the banana or remove the banana all together and put something more selective to muscle tissue.
08-15-2012, 09:16 PM
I notice you keep talking about price of your raws constantly. I saw some people wanting to pay for more for a great product. It took forever for recomp to come out and now you have to revamp it. With out taking this the wrong way .... Why bother. Sell less and make more. If it works people will pay. Right? I I have 3 sealed bottles from your website. Just trying to see what your direction your going.Maybe merge with another company and become stronger with better purchasing power.Originally Posted by EBF Inc
08-15-2012, 09:25 PM
It's just the banaba. Right now purchasing MORE gets me to the price unpaid for less. You have understand the aspect from retailers pov. Continuously rising the price on them creates a bad taste in their mouth.Originally Posted by Mission1
The banana is the only thing that continues to go up which is infortunatw since I based the product around that.
I have a selective glucose uptake replacement for it. And it is much easier to find
Banana at the 20% keeps rising on me. Apparently the demand is extremely high and it's made specifically for each batch we do.
08-16-2012, 05:38 AM
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08-26-2012, 04:21 PM
08-26-2012, 06:33 PM
Still testing it.Originally Posted by domore
Debating on using 1 bulk ingredient which has been treating me amazing or multiple ingredients.
Took 3 pics from after the gym. Up a few lbs n just as lean if not Leaner. Autokal was sent the pic I took he saw the changes.
08-26-2012, 06:51 PM
08-26-2012, 09:26 PM
High dosed osthole .Originally Posted by domore
Will report with studies when I confirm what I want to use.
08-26-2012, 10:24 PM
08-27-2012, 10:10 AM
08-27-2012, 10:18 AM
However, i do have a question regarding Osthole's ability to glucose uptake through AMPk in skeletal muscles and it being used as a muscle-building product.
So, AMPk activation inhibits glycogen storage and increases glucose uptake. Therefore, it seems to help improve insulin sensitivity and in skeletal muscles AMPk activation increases fatty acid oxidation.
AMPk is "turned on" when the cellular energy state of the cells drops. From what I have read, AMPk turns off energetically costly processes like protein synthesis and turns on energy producing processes like glucose and fat oxidation.
Now here lies my question.
Can leucine's activation of mTOR override AMPk's suppression of mTOR during exercise and continue to let growth occur?
This isn't my field, so if I am amiss please correct me.
08-27-2012, 01:46 PM
08-28-2012, 08:50 PM
Did some more research. It seems likely that you are going to need extremely large doses of Osthole due to it being a hydrophobic/poorly soluble compound with limited bio-availability.
08-28-2012, 09:44 PM
What do you consider extreme.Originally Posted by domore
There will be an ingredient to aid availability
08-29-2012, 05:46 AM
08-29-2012, 11:14 AM
Read that too, but is AR stimulation the only mechanism it works through?
EBF, you said you had been taking this. I've read multiple times that osthole is A PDE-5 inhibitor. Any effect in the erection department?
Also read about stomach issues and feeling sick. Anything here?
08-29-2012, 12:01 PM
At 400 mg per day it's goodOriginally Posted by Ape McGrapes
I'm using 1800-2000 mg osthole per day. That's erections fine if stimulation is there otherwise I am always busy do don't notice much. Strength n leanest is pronounced at the dose I'm using
08-29-2012, 12:03 PM
08-29-2012, 12:05 PM
08-29-2012, 12:10 PM
Yes. I haven't gotten a chance to get back to you as of yetOriginally Posted by MAxximal
No cramps or headaches. When increasing dose to 600mg the first 2x I did get light headed. Subsided after that though
08-29-2012, 12:38 PM
Muscle builder sounds interesting. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
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08-29-2012, 12:42 PM
08-29-2012, 01:05 PM
08-29-2012, 02:30 PM
I have stopped aav2 to test the osthole.Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes
I would take about 14mg capsaicinoids a day. When I was using it.
08-29-2012, 05:06 PM
09-02-2012, 03:00 PM
09-02-2012, 03:04 PM
Not to bad. I think the dose of osthole I'm using is way to high. Throat issues since like 2 days after dosing at 1800-2000 mg. I had same effects and no sides at 800-1200mg.Originally Posted by domore
Libido is there. Wood seems to not w as strong at these doses however not seeing anyone and been stressed lately so well see if that changes
09-02-2012, 07:37 PM
09-02-2012, 08:20 PM
09-02-2012, 09:08 PM
09-03-2012, 10:21 AM
Thanks.Originally Posted by domore
We need as much support as we can get to really make things fly.
Tell everyone about us
09-04-2012, 10:18 AM
09-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Not sure if you're still taking ideas but, I've got a few a natural Androstenedione, booster could increase test and doesn't seem anyone making one.
A full spectrum alpha adrenergic receptor 2 supplement a lot of fat loss pathways with it and libido boost.
A insulin booster and sensitiser , since insulin has a lot of anabolic/fat loss properties could be a hit.
And Myristoleic Acid could have anabolic effects although not too researched.
09-06-2012, 08:53 AM
The idea of an AI is potential but what we need to accomplish is some DIFFERENT to all the others. It's easy to chuck in some dhea metabolite with some herbs but we are looking for innovation.Originally Posted by smaxie
Thanks for the ideas man...glad you dropped in...any more, please let us know.
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09-06-2012, 01:08 PM
09-06-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm loving the muscle booster so far.
The stack options for the main ingredient is unlimited.
I like the idea or ArA with the osthole
I need to experiment with that next.