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3g berberine + 8 caps of Recompadrol daily PRICELESS.studies show great results with 300mg-500mg 3x per day...
as far as a maximum dose, id go with what your stomach can handle since it does inhibit absorbtion of carbohydrates. id keep it no more then 3-6g
the best time is 30minutes prior to a meal. This has to due with the time it takes to prevent adipocyte differentiation...What is the optimal timing one should take berberine prior to a meal?
And is their a minimum or maximum amount of carbs one should consume for say per 500mg of berberine?
How is glycobol solo?how effective would a stack combining recompadrol, glycobol, agmatine, and slinshot be.
Seems like overkill to me. Recompadrol + ALA is more than enough in my opinion.how effective would a stack combining recompadrol, glycobol, agmatine, and slinshot be.
One of each for a tremendous meal would be ok. I would say its a good safety net.how effective would a stack combining recompadrol, glycobol, agmatine, and slinshot be. or maybe just recomp and glycobol with agmatine
Can you say how many mg of berberine are in each cap of recompadrol?the best time is 30minutes prior to a meal. This has to due with the time it takes to prevent adipocyte differentiation...
i cant seem to find the figure im looking for (from a scientific article) that shows that time.. but...
Heres a great study
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ecam/2012/363845/
Along with saying this i would say 100mg berberine per 10g carb... but in all reality its pretty hard to determine those carbohydrate amounts without a blood glucose monitor
1 capsule of recompadrol, based on studies for 1 ingredient... corosolic acid, will control blood glucose for a meal of 75g carbohydrate. This recommendation however does not take into account the other ingredients.Can you say how many mg of berberine are in each cap of recompadrol?
unforturnatly i cannot disclose that information,
Heres the study i was talking about with waiting time to eat
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0026049506003908
Or better yet, is there a maximum/minimum amount of carbs or calories one should shoot for per cap of recompadrol?
100s? lol.. Quite the exaggeration thereWhat makes this product any better than the 100's of others in the same category?
Well there are a lot. I just want to know what would make this product stand out from the others?.100s? lol.. Quite the exaggeration there
http://enhancedbodyformulations.com/?page_id=68Well there are a lot. I just want to know what would make this product stand out from the others?.
the versatility of the product.What makes this product any better than the 100's of others in the same category?
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Some people including myself may want to know the timing dosage of a NP/GDA pre cardio for optimal uptake and increased PPAR agonism and AMPk for endurance and fat burning effects...Any more GDA questions?
I'll post up a Pre cheat meal plan for optimal nutrient partioning and fat attenuation tomorrow
It'll help with food digestion as well
If you're 450lbs of LBM, feel free to consume 10g leucineWill BCAAs intra before the NP and cardio negate it?
Should one just consume 10g leucine pre weights, halfway through, take say 1 recompadrol (or any NP for others who use say slin sane) 30mins pre cardio?
Oh noes!!If you're 450lbs of LBM, feel free to consume 10g leucine
Thoughts on this: http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/59/8/1879.long
Notice that the "normal" mice also suffered from significant muscle catabolism.
[h=4]CONCLUSIONS:[/h]Berberine impairs muscle metabolism by two novel mechanisms. It impairs mitochonidrial function stimulating the expression of atrogin-1 without affecting phosphorylation of forkhead transcription factors. The increase in atrogin-1 not only stimulated protein degradation but also suppressed protein synthesis, causing muscle atrophy
HmmmmmIf you're 450lbs of LBM, feel free to consume 10g leucine
Thoughts on this: http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/59/8/1879.long
Notice that the "normal" mice also suffered from significant muscle catabolism.
[h=4]CONCLUSIONS:[/h]Berberine impairs muscle metabolism by two novel mechanisms. It impairs mitochonidrial function stimulating the expression of atrogin-1 without affecting phosphorylation of forkhead transcription factors. The increase in atrogin-1 not only stimulated protein degradation but also suppressed protein synthesis, causing muscle atrophy
As for berberine, wouldnt it's effects on inhibiting protein synthesis and increasing protein degradation be detrimental to a bluking/lean mass gain plan?Please post any question relating to ANY GDA you may have questions about, whether an EBF product or not. Knowledge it power.
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I fully agree with the give and take. Downregulation of one pathway often means up-regulation of another. However, could you address the study I posted, as berberine's net effect seems to be muscle catabolism. I post this merely because berberine has a ton of effects that interest me (moreso for general health than activity in the gut).@uva,
Things like this are relative.
you see, ALA increases AMPk as well which reduces mTOR. Whats important is to supplement with additional leucine to kind of counteract that from happening. The body is all give and take, it works on checks and balances. Weight loss, and lifting in essence are catabolic, we need to fine tune our bodies to increase specific pathways favorable to our goals.
If there is something specific to berberine im missing here, please let me know.
No problem man, thanks for the response.sorry coop my comps not letting me qoute things.
as far as the atrogin.... i believe USP labs went over this in great detail heres the qoute
MulletSoldier replied with this:
"Great question!
I unfortunately do not have access to this full journal, so my commentary will be mostly speculative at this time. This being said, I will address the comments as best as possible.
As we see from the abstract, it appears that berberine extract-induced decreased muscle protein synthesis and increased muscle protein degradation is dependent on an increased expression of both atrogin-1, a key proteolytic gene present in a variety of catabolic states, and eIF3-f, a key component of the mTOR activation pathway. At first blush, this obviously appears to be indefensibly negative, as the atrogin-1 induction was not dependent upon the Atk/PI3K transcription pathway, and is thus entirely the result of berberine.
With that being said, we need to remember an important fact: these were diabetic mice. Insulin resistance is often associated with an increased in the activity of the ubiquitin-proteasome proteolytic pathway, and in particular, the expression of atrogin-1 to promote muscle atrophy. The mechanisms here are complex, but for a reference, the expression of both atrogin-1 and atrogin-1 transcription promoters have been shown to be increased by 15 fold in insulin resistant states."
Any product if legitimate in this catagorie would doWhat is the best ingredient (berberine, banaba, vandyl sulfate, ALA, gymnea, etc) for keeping blood sugar level while eating higher GI carbs?
I eat white rice and red potatoes as my stachy carbs (cant stand brown rice or plain oatmeal) so what can I take to prevent my blood sugar from spiking?
Type ones can usually eat what they wantI'm curious how people feel about high GI vs. Low GI because most people feel different based on the type of carbs they eat. Ultimately I think it would only be an issue if you were diabetic or had a lethargic feeing after a certain type of carb.
I posted this in another thread figured I'd post here.
Is my thought process correct or am I off with the above posting/statement?
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