Just wanted to drop a quick line here that Joint Force does exactly what I've read it's suppose to do. I've had my right ankle rebuilt and work 12+ hours on concrete, and it has dulled the pain and reduced the swelling considerably. Additionally, my wrists are sore from repetitive stress, and it has helped them as well. I've actually measured my ankle. and the lack of swelling is able to be measured and seen. Honestly, it works for me within about 20 minutes. At first, I thought it was placebo, but others have confirmed it as well. My only complaint, aside from it not being free, is I always seem to breath it in, no matter where or how I put it on. I kinda wish it had a different dispenser and was a tad thicker. To me, that would make it perfect. So thanks guys for bringing this stuff out, I really appreciate it!!