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    You got a forum at PHF..ask them..they own IBE now..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    is it like this in other company forums? I take this neglect highly personally
    any interesting ph/ds products or could be made into products we here at Am should research that aren't already in development?

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    Funny, i just tested two products today by two separate companies. And both had a small amount of something troublesome.

    But I cant give any details for legal reasons. So sorry
    this reminds me of the kilosports tren thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    bolasterone appears like it is a very strong steroid. And given the fact that it probably aromatizes to a strong estrogen it likely it give significant water retention.

    superdrol (which is what mdrol is right?) is also a very strong steroid but it does not aromatize so it is drier.

    two other differences. superdrol is active form and the IBE stuff is precursor. Also superdrol is recommended at around 20-40 mg a day while bolasterone (so you say ) is 2-6mg

    my guess is that at equal milligram amounts this IBE stuff MIGHT be stronger than superdrol. But I am guessing based on what I read on paper and until someone tries this stuff its still not for certain
    That original bolasterone (i suppose authentic?) was said to be dosed near 20-30mg. Around 88', when I first got into hanging around "athletes", while in high school, I was introduced to some retired bber's whom talked about doses in the early 70's that they used. I am not sure what is in this to make it so "strong" at 4mg.
    Though, I have noticed that some loggers have not talked about a huge gain in strength. Some have talked about "decent gain", but whatever that means is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    is it like this in other company forums? I take this neglect highly personally
    No, they hire reps to pimp the **** out of their product line. I think you should learn to suffer through your disappointment silently like the est of us do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    That original bolasterone (i suppose authentic?) was said to be dosed near 20-30mg. Around 88', when I first got into hanging around "athletes", while in high school, I was introduced to some retired bber's whom talked about doses in the early 70's that they used. I am not sure what is in this to make it so "strong" at 4mg.
    Though, I have noticed that some loggers have not talked about a huge gain in strength. Some have talked about "decent gain", but whatever that means is beyond me.

    original bolasterone was pills. the bolasterone in the 80s was an injectable that did not contain any bolasterone but rather a blend of test, deca, ground up anadrol and whatever
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I would love to hear your thoughts on Boladrol. As well as Bulbine Natalensis

    I would like to hear your thoughts also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerdalert View Post
    I would like to hear your thoughts also.
    check out my blog if you want to hear what i think about boladrol


    i dont have much of an opinion of the bulbine. there are dozens and dozens of studies out there where they give rats extracts of plants and the rats have testosterone elevations. most of these studies are done in far away lands. i dunno what to think about any of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    check out my blog if you want to hear what i think about boladrol


    i dont have much of an opinion of the bulbine. there are dozens and dozens of studies out there where they give rats extracts of plants and the rats have testosterone elevations. most of these studies are done in far away lands. i dunno what to think about any of it
    Would you be willing to supplement it and get bloods?
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    I'll help bump ya in here, Pat. Long time no see! Hope all is going well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCunningham View Post
    Would you be willing to supplement it and get bloods?
    i am supplementing other stuff and getting bloods already

    do you have access to legitimate material?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rampage jackson View Post
    I'm here boss. **** just got SRS!
    Sum OLD SKOOL up in here!

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    Oh hai, Patrick.

    Good to see you over here again.



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    I'll give this a little Thursday afternoon love bump...

    I always enjoy hearing PA's thoughts on anything supplement/industry related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbarrows View Post
    I'll give this a little Thursday afternoon love bump...

    I always enjoy hearing PA's thoughts on anything supplement/industry related.

    It looks like we are gonna have a seperate prototype nutrition subforum on this site.

    I plan on introducing some stuff to prototype nutrition in the coming months but i dont want to reveal what they are. Well I will reveal one because its not really novel, although it is something I think is pretty cool. We will be mixing up some lipsomal vitamin C. Liposomal vitamin C allows you to take megadoses of vitamin c. You cannot megadose regular vitamin C for various GI reasons but this stuff you can and it is said that you can reach blood levels that you can only acheive otherwise with intravenous C

    hi dose vitamin c has a host of health benefits supposedly. my friend mike fischer (aka dazed) swears by it and the compounding pharmacy he works with sells alot and they have amazing stories.

    I am making this first and foremost because i want to try the stuff, and i figured that if i am gonna mix some up for myself i might as well make the batch bigger so others can try
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    It looks like we are gonna have a seperate prototype nutrition subforum on this site.

    I plan on introducing some stuff to prototype nutrition in the coming months but i dont want to reveal what they are. Well I will reveal one because its not really novel, although it is something I think is pretty cool. We will be mixing up some lipsomal vitamin C. Liposomal vitamin C allows you to take megadoses of vitamin c. You cannot megadose regular vitamin C for various GI reasons but this stuff you can and it is said that you can reach blood levels that you can only acheive otherwise with intravenous C

    hi dose vitamin c has a host of health benefits supposedly. my friend mike fischer (aka dazed) swears by it and the compounding pharmacy he works with sells alot and they have amazing stories.

    I am making this first and foremost because i want to try the stuff, and i figured that if i am gonna mix some up for myself i might as well make the batch bigger so others can try
    Awesome Pat. I can't wait for that to come out! Looking forward to trying some other Prototype products as well, gotta wait until after the holiday season for that fun stuff though. Keep'em coming!
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    nice idea here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    It looks like we are gonna have a seperate prototype nutrition subforum on this site.

    I plan on introducing some stuff to prototype nutrition in the coming months but i dont want to reveal what they are. Well I will reveal one because its not really novel, although it is something I think is pretty cool. We will be mixing up some lipsomal vitamin C. Liposomal vitamin C allows you to take megadoses of vitamin c. You cannot megadose regular vitamin C for various GI reasons but this stuff you can and it is said that you can reach blood levels that you can only acheive otherwise with intravenous C

    hi dose vitamin c has a host of health benefits supposedly. my friend mike fischer (aka dazed) swears by it and the compounding pharmacy he works with sells alot and they have amazing stories.

    I am making this first and foremost because i want to try the stuff, and i figured that if i am gonna mix some up for myself i might as well make the batch bigger so others can try
    nice will it be good to have when your sick or all the time
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    check out page 53-54

    http://books.google.com/books?id=1uf...page&q&f=false


    sorry it wont let me copy it
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    Id buy the vit c product by the case
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    Patrick, any idea on the price point on the liposomal Vit C yet? I would love to pick up A LOT after Christmas. I was looking around and noticed others are selling at about $27 for 30 one gram servings. Seems a bit expensive, but maybe it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Patrick, any idea on the price point on the liposomal Vit C yet? I would love to pick up A LOT after Christmas. I was looking around and noticed others are selling at about $27 for 30 one gram servings. Seems a bit expensive, but maybe it's not.

    this product is nothing more than a thought in my brain at this time so i dont have any information yet
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    Why the liposomal over a cyclodextrin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Why the liposomal over a cyclodextrin?

    cyclodextrins are not appropriate for vitamin c
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    What's up Patrick. I'm a huge boxing fan, have been since I was a kid. I saw a quote attributed to V.Conte regarding Manny Pacquiao, where he thought Manny's rise through various weight classes was unusual and thought perhaps he was taking PEDs. We live in an era where it's easy to make claims without a shred of proof to support those claims. With your knowledge and background, you think he's on something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    What's up Patrick. I'm a huge boxing fan, have been since I was a kid. I saw a quote attributed to V.Conte regarding Manny Pacquiao, where he thought Manny's rise through various weight classes was unusual and thought perhaps he was taking PEDs. We live in an era where it's easy to make claims without a shred of proof to support those claims. With your knowledge and background, you think he's on something?

    i would have to see before and after pics or something. and your guess would be as good as mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    What's up Patrick. I'm a huge boxing fan, have been since I was a kid. I saw a quote attributed to V.Conte regarding Manny Pacquiao, where he thought Manny's rise through various weight classes was unusual and thought perhaps he was taking PEDs. We live in an era where it's easy to make claims without a shred of proof to support those claims. With your knowledge and background, you think he's on something?
    Not to take the thread offtrack, but people forget the when manny started his carrer he was dirt poor and uneducated. The guys diet probably consisted of rice and his training was probably much different. I think that it's possible that Manny is taking something, however, it is also possible that he has just hit his stride physically over years of fine tunning. if Manny were ever caught hed lose everything, it would be really stupid to be doing that kind of stuff in this stage of his career.
  

  
 

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