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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyboy View Post
    Pat, does Prototype ship to Canada? Thanks.
    Unless something has changed recently, that would be no.

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    how many grams per active in each bottle
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGank View Post
    how many grams per active in each bottle
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    I think I'll give this a try. Anybody experience mild GI symptoms? I've tried oral and trans 11keto in the past and always got some mild stomach upset from both. Anything in the physiology that would warrant those effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    I think I'll give this a try. Anybody experience mild GI symptoms? I've tried oral and trans 11keto in the past and always got some mild stomach upset from both. Anything in the physiology that would warrant those effects?

    i cant imagine trans giving problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
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    How much active per the suggested 50 sprays a day ?

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    also can I use a Capzasin bottle sponge applicator to apply instead of spraying ?
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    Bump for 2 questions above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    How much active per the suggested 50 sprays a day ?

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    200 to 300 mg i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    also can I use a Capzasin bottle sponge applicator to apply instead of spraying ?
    sure
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    will you run a sale on the 11kt spray for xmas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGank View Post
    will you run a sale on the 11kt spray for xmas?
    Not that I'm aware of. There'll be a special combo deal on Joint Force and App Nut Osteo-sport at Nutraplanet soon though.
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    DO you need to shake or swirl the bottle before applying. Reason I ask is nearing the end of the bottle I seem to be getting a film left on the skin that I did not have up to this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    DO you need to shake or swirl the bottle before applying. Reason I ask is nearing the end of the bottle I seem to be getting a film left on the skin that I did not have up to this point
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    I don't know. I think I shook mine occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    I don't know. I think I shook mine occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    DO you need to shake or swirl the bottle before applying. Reason I ask is nearing the end of the bottle I seem to be getting a film left on the skin that I did not have up to this point
    the liquid in the bottle should still be clear


    you may have dry skin
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    PA, I'm highly interested in 7-Spray, mainly because I really liked Suppress-C and Lean Xtreme. Would you mind giving me some more insight on the comparisons of bioavailability of topical 7-OH-DHEA/BAET to oral? Is there a really BIG difference, that one should lean more towards a topical when dealing with these two compounds?

    I've had great results with LX and loved Suppress-C. I do feel that Suppress-C worked better but I'd like to know to what extent, statistically.

    I'm eager to try out 7-Spray, it's just a little on the pricey side since it's not in full distribution; but I understand this because you can't really put a price on quality.

    There's a ton of deals right now and I am definitely going to pick up some Joint Force but I'd just like a qualitative response as to why I should always go topically rather than orally when it comes to these two compounds. Reason being is, I do not want to pick up orally formulated products of these compounds if they really have poor bioavailability (for this I'd really like to see the percentage difference between orally and topically).
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    Quote Originally Posted by F355 View Post
    PA, I'm highly interested in 7-Spray, mainly because I really liked Suppress-C and Lean Xtreme. Would you mind giving me some more insight on the comparisons of bioavailability of topical 7-OH-DHEA/BAET to oral? Is there a really BIG difference, that one should lean more towards a topical when dealing with these two compounds?

    I've had great results with LX and loved Suppress-C. I do feel that Suppress-C worked better but I'd like to know to what extent, statistically.

    I'm eager to try out 7-Spray, it's just a little on the pricey side since it's not in full distribution; but I understand this because you can't really put a price on quality.

    There's a ton of deals right now and I am definitely going to pick up some Joint Force but I'd just like a qualitative response as to why I should always go topically rather than orally when it comes to these two compounds. Reason being is, I do not want to pick up orally formulated products of these compounds if they really have poor bioavailability (for this I'd really like to see the percentage difference between orally and topically).


    all dhea derivatives are extensively sulfated in the liver upon first pass. first pass is when something is absorbed orally and goes to the liver before it makes it to the general circulation. sulfation is essentially irreversible and renders the compound ineffective
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    transdermal avoids first pass degradation. the result is an avoidance of the extensive sulfation and a hughe increase in bioavailability


    i cant give you a number but i will say the increase definitely should make the product worth the money
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    how much better is your resv product over the pills? Does the same rational apply?


    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    all dhea derivatives are extensively sulfated in the liver upon first pass. first pass is when something is absorbed orally and goes to the liver before it makes it to the general circulation. sulfation is essentially irreversible and renders the compound ineffective
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    transdermal avoids first pass degradation. the result is an avoidance of the extensive sulfation and a hughe increase in bioavailability


    i cant give you a number but i will say the increase definitely should make the product worth the money
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    Anyone plan on loggin this? I'd love to read if you post one up.
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    will the r spray lead to any muscle growth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGank View Post
    will the r spray lead to any muscle growth?
    Resveratrol is an aromatase inhibitor, so as well as the health benefits of resveratrol, it should boost testosterone levels through aromatase inhibition, which in turn should lead to improved gym performance and muscle growth.
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    PA or Henryv,

    I just finished post cyclin from a light hdrol cycle (50mg ed for 4 weeks) And I want to run this 711 stack you got on proto. Do you think I will be ok to start running the 11kt now or do I need to wait??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangatang View Post
    PA or Henryv,

    I just finished post cyclin from a light hdrol cycle (50mg ed for 4 weeks) And I want to run this 711 stack you got on proto. Do you think I will be ok to start running the 11kt now or do I need to wait??
    Personally I think you should leave the same length of time you're used to leaving between cycles. The 7-spray would be fine to run whenever you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Personally I think you should leave the same length of time you're used to leaving between cycles. The 7-spray would be fine to run whenever you like.
    Ok thanks, I'll just run the 7 spray then with this cut.

    I only bought one bottle, send me 2 and I'll do an 8 week logg
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    Guys there is currently a 711 stack sale going on....7 spray + 11-KT for $100....about a $30 savings. Get in on it while it last!
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    I want to order 2 stacks, why are they unavailable, is the sale over?
    Either the promo is over or they are out of product, the prototype line is done on 'bench top' super small scale so stuff runs out fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    I want to order 2 stacks, why are they unavailable, is the sale over?
    Quote Originally Posted by Orangatang View Post
    Either the promo is over or they are out of product, the prototype line is done on 'bench top' super small scale so stuff runs out fast

    I'm confirming with Pat, but I believe the sale has ended. The individual bottles of 11-KT & 7-Spray are still available.

    With that being said.....the products are well worth the money. It's better to spend your money on quality products that work....then wasting it on some cheap herbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feel The Burn View Post
    I'm confirming with Pat, but I believe the sale has ended. The individual bottles of 11-KT & 7-Spray are still available.

    With that being said.....the products are well worth the money. It's better to spend your money on quality products that work....then wasting it on some cheap herbs.
    The 7 spray is really good for immune support. I was off of it for 2 days after running it for 14 days straight and I immediately got a runny nose and sneezes lol. needless to say im back on it
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    Yes the combo deal is now over.
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    How much interest would there be if we extended the sale for 3 days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feel The Burn View Post
    How much interest would there be if we extended the sale for 3 days?
    I was going to order it toward the end of last week, but prototyes site showed oos. I've had a hard time finding log, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Yes the combo deal is now over.
    There will be five stacks going into stock sometime soon (maybe tonight, idk) for those that missed out, these will be the last at this price for the foreseeable future though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    There will be five stacks going into stock sometime soon (maybe tonight, idk) for those that missed out, these will be the last at this price for the foreseeable future though.
    They were added, and I think three of them have sold already. Two left afaik.
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