The ULTIMATE 12-week LEAN MASS cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    thanks, my order is out

    3x triazole (bb.com sale)
    2x ax
    1x lx
    1x adrena

    and a few other goodies

    i think the order will arrive end of this week or next week, and i will log it

    i take creatin for ~ 6 months now. should i stop taking crea whilst on the cycle?
    Awesome! Thanks for supporting DS!!

    You can keep taking the Creatine. If you don't mind, would you post the Log link up when you get it going? I would like to follow as Im sure a few others would as well.

    Thanks again!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    thanks, my order is out

    3x triazole (bb.com sale)
    2x ax
    1x lx
    1x adrena

    and a few other goodies

    i think the order will arrive end of this week or next week, and i will log it

    i take creatin for ~ 6 months now. should i stop taking crea whilst on the cycle?
    You can keep taking it if you like. Definately log it!
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  3. ok, ****ing customs seized my package because the think the supps. i ordered are medicine
    now ive paid 200$ dollar only for shipping usa-->austria and back
    the "funny" thing is, i can buy the "medicine"(activate xtreme) in a local store but if i order online i need to be a pharmacist.
    god bless austria...........



  4. Not cool
    I hope it works out for you!!!

  5. Sorry to hear that.
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  6. today, bb.com e-mailed me, that the have received the package back, and the refund my ~ 400$ back. now i only paid 100 $ shipping for nothing. not (too) bad

    i will order the stuff now from europe and ignore the ****ing customs
    found the ax/tz stack for 82 €
    i`ve also found a ax/stoked stack. it says :"America's Best Selling Testosterone Boosting Formula Will Power Your Physique And Libido To New Heights"

    what can you say about that?

  7. Since moving to Germany a couple of years ago I don't even bother trying to get supps outside of the EU. When I first arrived I had some Cissus seized by customs. It eventually turned up 6 months later but it's not worth the hassle of customs you just have to bite the bullet and pay the extra euros for the product.

    AX/Stoked is a great stack that has been around for a couple of years but it doesn't have the blood-work to back up the test boosting/oestrogen reducing that TZ does. Stick to TZ/AZ and you can't go wrong.

  8. ja, wir europäer müssen in den sauren apfel beißen. ist aber auch schon der einzige nachteil im gegensatz zu den amis (abgesehn vom den marijane-apos )

    i`m definately going to buy the ax/tz stack, but maybe i stack it with ai products.

    ax week 1-8
    tz week 4-12
    lx week 8-12
    stoked week 1-8
    testopro week 4-12

    what do you think about that? mix it or try it separately?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    ja, wir europäer müssen in den sauren apfel beißen. ist aber auch schon der einzige nachteil im gegensatz zu den amis (abgesehn vom den marijane-apos )


    I would say that there is no need to run Testopro, TZ and AZ together. You could probably miss out the Testopro all together and save it for a later stack so something like:

    ax week 1-8
    tz week 4-12
    lx week 8-12
    stoked week 1-8 (optional)

    Looking at the above I think Stoked should be saved for a later stack as well. The blood-work with TZ is pretty conclusive so just AZ/TZ/LX would be fine and save Stoked/Testopro for a later date:

    ax week 1-8
    tz week 4-12
    lx week 8-12

  10. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    today, bb.com e-mailed me, that the have received the package back, and the refund my ~ 400$ back. now i only paid 100 $ shipping for nothing. not (too) bad

    i will order the stuff now from europe and ignore the ****ing customs
    found the ax/tz stack for 82 €
    i`ve also found a ax/stoked stack. it says :"America's Best Selling Testosterone Boosting Formula Will Power Your Physique And Libido To New Heights"

    what can you say about that?
    Have you checked out Predator Nutrition? They are UK-based but ship to continental Europe.
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  11. yeah i know predator nutrition, but i will not order at pred. again.

    bad customer service,need ~ 1 week to answer e-mail and then they told me they need 6 gbp more (wtf, i transfered the money to them and after many unanswered e-mails i wrote and 10 days later, they told me, that they need more money)
    ______________________________ ______________________________ _____
    this is what i wrote to them:

    my order confirmation says :
    Total Price: GBP 146.95 (EUR 166.93 approx.)
    and i`ve transfered 166,93 € !!!!10 days!!!! ago.
    and now, after 10 days, and many unanswered e-mails i wrote, u need 6 gbp more.
    definitely ordered the last time!!!

    i will pay the 6 gb via paypal to make it quick. to which e-mail should i send the money?

    their reply:

    The email is :
    postmaster@******************* ***

    thank you and we can get this off for you straight away. Thank you
    ______________________________ ______________________________ ___

    thats not the right strategy to keep costumers, but i think they dont care because the have enough .....
    also i received 1 product in a ****ed up condition ( mesmorph --> pulver was outside the tube! it`s like the played soccer with it before they sent it) and no freebies with an 166 € order ( i know , that`s no must)

    all in all, it was my first and my last order at pn.


    ordered 10 min ago at gigas-nutrition. they are a little bit more expensive, but good service and the best thing is, they dont claim a few euros more after payment ( wtf predator n )
    so pn will not see a single penny/cent

    ordered:

    2x ax
    2x tz
    1x lx
    2x shut eye (fusion bb) (i knew this product already, best product for sleep )

    products should arrive next week, so i hopefully can start the 8w. cycle.
    maybe there will be a small log also

  12. Are there any reviews on this stack out there? I'm gonna do it next month, but add adrenalean in weeks 5 -8.

  13. there are many reviews/logs here. u can also google it, and u will find only positive reviews.
    just go for it

  14. wow.. great layout and outline.. makes me want to try it soley based upon how clear you made the game plan for it.. saved for a future cycle
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    yeah i know predator nutrition, but i will not order at pred. again.

    bad customer service,need ~ 1 week to answer e-mail and then they told me they need 6 gbp more (wtf, i transfered the money to them and after many unanswered e-mails i wrote and 10 days later, they told me, that they need more money)
    ______________________________ ______________________________ _____
    this is what i wrote to them:

    my order confirmation says :
    Total Price: GBP 146.95 (EUR 166.93 approx.)
    and i`ve transfered 166,93 € !!!!10 days!!!! ago.
    and now, after 10 days, and many unanswered e-mails i wrote, u need 6 gbp more.
    definitely ordered the last time!!!

    i will pay the 6 gb via paypal to make it quick. to which e-mail should i send the money?

    their reply:

    The email is :
    postmaster@******************* ***

    thank you and we can get this off for you straight away. Thank you
    ______________________________ ______________________________ ___

    thats not the right strategy to keep costumers, but i think they dont care because the have enough .....
    also i received 1 product in a ****ed up condition ( mesmorph --> pulver was outside the tube! it`s like the played soccer with it before they sent it) and no freebies with an 166 € order ( i know , that`s no must)

    all in all, it was my first and my last order at pn.


    ordered 10 min ago at gigas-nutrition. they are a little bit more expensive, but good service and the best thing is, they dont claim a few euros more after payment ( wtf predator n )
    so pn will not see a single penny/cent

    ordered:

    2x ax
    2x tz
    1x lx
    2x shut eye (fusion bb) (i knew this product already, best product for sleep )

    products should arrive next week, so i hopefully can start the 8w. cycle.
    maybe there will be a small log also
    Not sure why they needed £6 more, but that is the first time i have heard a negative review of PN. I have ordered through them several times with great service.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    Not sure why they needed £6 more, but that is the first time i have heard a negative review of PN. I have ordered through them several times with great service.
    Yep, me too. I've ordered 10+ times from them over the last 2-3 years I've been living in Germany and never had a problem. Whenever I have emailed them for product information they have normally responded within a matter of hours.

  17. maybe it was badluck, maybe it`s because i`m austrian and they are "englishmen", or maybe they needed one week to decipher my english.
    i think we will never know

    but i don`t care, because i received my gigas-order today

    the cycle:

    • ax week 1-8| 6 caps/ daily
    • tz week 1-8| 3 caps/ daily
    • lx week 5-8| 4 caps/ daily


    other supps:

    protein
    • 100% casein & whey- on|daily
    • myofusion- gn|daily


    workout-booster
    • presurge ul.- aen|1-2/ week
    • mesomorph- aps|1-2/ week


    energy-booster
    • dmaa, pea, phenadrine- aps, stizm- tl|sometimes


    sleep
    • shut eye- fb|daily
    • powerfull- usp|daily, as long as it runs out (~2 weeks)


    overall health
    • fish oil|daily
    • vitamins&minerals|daily



    i also stop my creatin intake now, and i will take it again after 4 weeks

    i take 2 ax+1 tz in the "morning", midday and in the evening. i take the last caps at 21h and the first at 9h.
    would it be better to take it like, 0h - 8h - 16h?
    should i take it with oil, and does it matter if i take it with or without food?

    thanks

  18. Heman are you gonna log this?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by heman86 View Post
    maybe it was badluck, maybe it`s because i`m austrian and they are "englishmen", or maybe they needed one week to decipher my english.
    i think we will never know
    One thing i have noticed as an Englishman is that a lot of English-speaking continental-Europeans speak better English than people in England! I also have no problem deciphering your written English on this forum.
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  20. Started running this stack on 3-14, will report in 12 weeks!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by airram479 View Post
    Started running this stack on 3-14, will report in 12 weeks!
    Looking forward to it!
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  22. Products from DS stimulate the hormonal system of its own. They do not intervening, do not break it. That is, they can be used for PCT? I understand correctly?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mavrick.Rus View Post
    Products from DS stimulate the hormonal system of its own. They do not intervening, do not break it. That is, they can be used for PCT? I understand correctly?
    Correct.
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