We havent gotten blood work back from someone using 700mgs test and then using this in PCT but I do have blood work from someone using 500mgs a week and the results were exactly what we were looking for. We have around 20 different sets of blood work which Ill start releasing around the end of the week but the biggest jumps in testosterone have been those with already low or suppressed test levels. Going from under 300 to over 500+ range with the avg being around a 100% increase in total test with an avg of 30% drop in estrogen but up to 75% in a couple cases.
good to hear, i heard all these are all new to the market correct? how long has this been in production before put out. Especially with new ingredients hitting the market, very hard to say the least especially with sending in a New ingredient to be submitted to fda.
We do think it will keep gyno at bay because of all the different pathway's we attack for estrogen control. With the use of a strong AI, a good anti-estrogen and a SERM plus a couple other cool ideas its would seem to be near impossible to get gyno while using it. Estrogen is definitely controlled even with large increases in testosterone.
again thats very good, i heard its an analog of letro? what about the issues surrounding the analogs of cialis viagra ect found in some supps like aspire 36. Should we expect this to be off the market soon aswell, id hate to put in sooo much effort into doing something with a OTC supplement just to have it pulled.
also in terms of a SERM, you didnt really answer, is it a phytoestrogen? ERa/b antagonist agonist? or is it not very selective in tissues. Technically i can say the phyto estrogen in Flax is a SERM, but its not selective. How selective is this, on what receptors are you hitting?
One of the compounds in the formula is a SERM. We arent relying on a single compound to do all of the work since it just doesnt make sense for what should be done during PCT or when controlling estrogen and its related side effects. Our goal was to attack the entire problem and this formula does it.
please see my above concerns
As Rob said we have 3 new compounds and IMO we have a new use for an older compound. As far as I know its never been used in a product like this, for this specific reason.
Yes you can.
That was the goal. To address everything you would want and would use during PCT but also to be stacked with a test booster, used as a stand alone, used if you are someone who has existing estrogen related issue like gyno etc. It was meant to bridge the HUGE gap between effective OTC supplements and prescription strength ingredients. Based on our blood work we think we exceeded our expectations.
And youll see we went above and beyond with this formula. I dont think there is anything lacking in the formula. Expect strength gains, expect lean muscle gains, expect increases in endurance, sex drive, testosterone, free test and expect estrogen to go down.
And one more thing, we put an excellent liver protectant in the product for those who need to combat estrogen while on cycle, and I dont mean milk thistle. This liver protectant wont inhibit gains.