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    Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    Yes we can. I'll be asking for loggers in the not too distant future, so keep an eye out!
    will it be potent enough for a cycle of test at 700mg?

    in terms of gyno prevention. and keeping it at bay.

    Numbers at this point are a huge deal to me as im starting a cycle in august probably. and if not august then around Xmas time.

    and this would be nice to have as a few bottles. to test it and use it.



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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    Among other things. Strong liver protectant, anti-oxidant, anti-catabolic, SERM, anti-estrogen...
    SERM? im sorry.... did i hear you say its a SERM? In what respects? phytoestrogen?

    theres only one ERa antagonist i know of thats herbal.

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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    Among other things. Strong liver protectant, anti-oxidant, anti-catabolic, SERM, anti-estrogen...
    WHAT,wait,What. SERM where

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    Is this featuring products already on the market or will the main ingredient be a new compound?
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    yes can we use this with T ??????????????? if so! i will order ASAP
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    is this some sort of all in one pct?

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    DUDE WHEN IS THIS COMMING ! I WANT IT
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    Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    DUDE WHEN IS THIS COMMING ! I WANT IT
    christmas in july for jasen lol

    i am interested in this product but for goodness sakes let jasen log this for AM haha
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    i will find a way to gain 20lb of it loll. im jut very in love with AI;s i belive it i the future of LEGAL T booters. DS has alway been quiet the head guy in this department
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    Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    will it be potent enough for a cycle of test at 700mg?

    in terms of gyno prevention. and keeping it at bay.

    Numbers at this point are a huge deal to me as im starting a cycle in august probably. and if not august then around Xmas time.

    and this would be nice to have as a few bottles. to test it and use it.
    We are not going to make any recommendations about whether you use this for injectable PCT. The more astute of you will make your own decisions based on the bloodwork we release.
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    Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Is this featuring products already on the market or will the main ingredient be a new compound?
    Three compounds are totally new.
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    wait so when is it comming out? i still cant find that
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    Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    wait so when is it comming out? i still cant find that
    Dude this came out last week and they sold out, where you been?
    Just inject.

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    Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    will it be potent enough for a cycle of test at 700mg?

    in terms of gyno prevention. and keeping it at bay.

    Numbers at this point are a huge deal to me as im starting a cycle in august probably. and if not august then around Xmas time.

    and this would be nice to have as a few bottles. to test it and use it.
    We havent gotten blood work back from someone using 700mgs test and then using this in PCT but I do have blood work from someone using 500mgs a week and the results were exactly what we were looking for. We have around 20 different sets of blood work which Ill start releasing around the end of the week but the biggest jumps in testosterone have been those with already low or suppressed test levels. Going from under 300 to over 500+ range with the avg being around a 100% increase in total test with an avg of 30% drop in estrogen but up to 75% in a couple cases.

    We do think it will keep gyno at bay because of all the different pathway's we attack for estrogen control. With the use of a strong AI, a good anti-estrogen and a SERM plus a couple other cool ideas its would seem to be near impossible to get gyno while using it. Estrogen is definitely controlled even with large increases in testosterone.

    Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    SERM? im sorry.... did i hear you say its a SERM? In what respects? phytoestrogen?

    theres only one ERa antagonist i know of thats herbal.
    One of the compounds in the formula is a SERM. We arent relying on a single compound to do all of the work since it just doesnt make sense for what should be done during PCT or when controlling estrogen and its related side effects. Our goal was to attack the entire problem and this formula does it.

    Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Is this featuring products already on the market or will the main ingredient be a new compound?
    As Rob said we have 3 new compounds and IMO we have a new use for an older compound. As far as I know its never been used in a product like this, for this specific reason.

    Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    yes can we use this with T ??????????????? if so! i will order ASAP
    Yes you can.

    Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    is this some sort of all in one pct?
    That was the goal. To address everything you would want and would use during PCT but also to be stacked with a test booster, used as a stand alone, used if you are someone who has existing estrogen related issue like gyno etc. It was meant to bridge the HUGE gap between effective OTC supplements and prescription strength ingredients. Based on our blood work we think we exceeded our expectations.

    Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    i will find a way to gain 20lb of it loll. im jut very in love with AI;s i belive it i the future of LEGAL T booters. DS has alway been quiet the head guy in this department
    And youll see we went above and beyond with this formula. I dont think there is anything lacking in the formula. Expect strength gains, expect lean muscle gains, expect increases in endurance, sex drive, testosterone, free test and expect estrogen to go down.
    And one more thing, we put an excellent liver protectant in the product for those who need to combat estrogen while on cycle, and I dont mean milk thistle. This liver protectant wont inhibit gains.

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    I am much more interested. Any idea when the profile will be released?
    Just inject.

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    Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I am much more interested. Any idea when the profile will be released?
    Its likely going to start at the end of this week. Id like to release a compound a day or every other day. This way we can highlight it, go over its info, if anyone has any questions etc. Nothing will get lost in the shuffle. In between those days ill release blood work and should be able to do so up until its launch (based on the amount we have and are expecting to come in over the next few weeks).

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    Originally Posted by Sldge View Post
    We havent gotten blood work back from someone using 700mgs test and then using this in PCT but I do have blood work from someone using 500mgs a week and the results were exactly what we were looking for. We have around 20 different sets of blood work which Ill start releasing around the end of the week but the biggest jumps in testosterone have been those with already low or suppressed test levels. Going from under 300 to over 500+ range with the avg being around a 100% increase in total test with an avg of 30% drop in estrogen but up to 75% in a couple cases.

    good to hear, i heard all these are all new to the market correct? how long has this been in production before put out. Especially with new ingredients hitting the market, very hard to say the least especially with sending in a New ingredient to be submitted to fda.

    We do think it will keep gyno at bay because of all the different pathway's we attack for estrogen control. With the use of a strong AI, a good anti-estrogen and a SERM plus a couple other cool ideas its would seem to be near impossible to get gyno while using it. Estrogen is definitely controlled even with large increases in testosterone.
    again thats very good, i heard its an analog of letro? what about the issues surrounding the analogs of cialis viagra ect found in some supps like aspire 36. Should we expect this to be off the market soon aswell, id hate to put in sooo much effort into doing something with a OTC supplement just to have it pulled.

    also in terms of a SERM, you didnt really answer, is it a phytoestrogen? ERa/b antagonist agonist? or is it not very selective in tissues. Technically i can say the phyto estrogen in Flax is a SERM, but its not selective. How selective is this, on what receptors are you hitting?


    One of the compounds in the formula is a SERM. We arent relying on a single compound to do all of the work since it just doesnt make sense for what should be done during PCT or when controlling estrogen and its related side effects. Our goal was to attack the entire problem and this formula does it.
    please see my above concerns
    As Rob said we have 3 new compounds and IMO we have a new use for an older compound. As far as I know its never been used in a product like this, for this specific reason.

    Yes you can.

    That was the goal. To address everything you would want and would use during PCT but also to be stacked with a test booster, used as a stand alone, used if you are someone who has existing estrogen related issue like gyno etc. It was meant to bridge the HUGE gap between effective OTC supplements and prescription strength ingredients. Based on our blood work we think we exceeded our expectations.

    And youll see we went above and beyond with this formula. I dont think there is anything lacking in the formula. Expect strength gains, expect lean muscle gains, expect increases in endurance, sex drive, testosterone, free test and expect estrogen to go down.
    And one more thing, we put an excellent liver protectant in the product for those who need to combat estrogen while on cycle, and I dont mean milk thistle. This liver protectant wont inhibit gains.
    Im prone to gyno, and i have it. so im hoping it does what you say it does in terms of numbers/percentages used.

    not trying to sound like a ****, but im just weary when i see something marketed as a SERM, and when you analog a prescription breast cancer drug in a supplement.

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    Its not an analog of Letro, it is an AI that is of similar strength and structure as Letro but is not illegal nor can I see how it can be pulled from the market. Its not a drug which is what the analogs of viagra being used were and its why they should never been used to begin with which is why they were pulled. That is not the case with pZole(tm) (the AI compound in Traizole).

    The SERM is selective and in the tissues/ receptors we want. Im not really giving much info out on it cause Im not quite ready to release the ingredients. If I give out too much data the pubmed ninjas will be all over it. I can say it is specifically called a SERM in the research. This isnt something like trans-res where everyone wants to call it a SERM but has no actual science to back that up. This is described as a SERM, which is one of the reasons we decided on using it.

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