t-1 with an oral too?

[syko]

im thinking Nordiol? dunno going for builk run 500 ED with T-1?Maybe 750? Would like to make the injectables but no lab room. What should i run post? 6 oxo? nuthin? zma at least i am thinking.

So how does the Nor sound? yes, no?

thanks.

peace.

btw i want to go with a six week cycle one t-1 bottle will be enough <i know i asked before just cant find the link>.

thanks again

 

[chosen5]

im thinking Nordiol? dunno going for builk run 500 ED with T-1?Maybe 750? Would like to make the injectables but no lab room. What should i run post? 6 oxo? nuthin? zma at least i am thinking.

So how does the Nor sound? yes, no?

thanks.

peace.

btw i want to go with a six week cycle one t-1 bottle will be enough <i know i asked before just cant find the link>.

thanks again

6 weeks of T-1, alone,you'd definitely want to run 6-oxo, especially if you're going to be running some nor along side! BTW at 500mg 'ED', I'm assuming that's what you meant, 1 bottle of T-1 would last 30 days, not 6 weeks and 750mg of T-1 a day, is a bit much, don't you think? Your T-1 bottle would only last 20 days then, you'd need two full bottles, but I'd not recommend such high dosages...

 

[syko]

sorry lol miscommunication

See i have never used transdermals before but i would like to run a six week cycle with T-1 and Nordiol or 1,4. Running the oral at 500 ED not the trans. lol i love the internet. i dont know how much trans a day to use so any suggestions would be appreciated. Also what oral do you think would work the best, of those two?

thanks

peace.

 

[syko]

OOOOps

Post i am thinking of running 6oxo, zma, and FUZU. but i need counseling on when to start each of them. So assistance would be great thankyou.

paece.

 

[chosen5]

Re: OOOOps

Post i am thinking of running 6oxo, zma, and FUZU. but i need counseling on when to start each of them. So assistance would be great thankyou.

paece.

Start all of them following your last application/dosage, ph/ps have short halflifes and as such post-cycle ancillaries should begin immediately upon discontinuation. If you're going to be taking T-1, I'd run 1,4/Boldione along side, and not nor. As far as the trans goes, if you're wanting to buy just one bottle and have it last the full 6 weeks youll need to run it at 3 squirts a day, preferably spread out evenly throughout the day.

 

[curt2go]

Do the moderate dosing and run some 1,4 along with it @ 600mg/day... You can run it 6 weeks but most people find that gains subside after 4 weeks on 1-test. Alot of people have been keeping them to 4 weeks. Post cycle go with 6-oxo if you can afford it. Its worth it.. Hope that helps.. Talk to ya..

 

[syko]

what about nordione

It is supposed to make you hld alot of water. i think i am going with a four weeker now then four off then six on with full 4-AD geland 1,4 with that. So the nordione will work with my first cycle right?

peace.

 

[pjorstad]

If it has little 4-AD then water retention will be minimal. I believe the T-1 has little in comparison to 1-test. adding 4-AD into the mix wont really make your gains extend any longer so 4 weeks would probably be ideal regardless. Some people experience gains later but they are the exception not the rule and most people exerience gains early and end early.

 

[curt2go]

T1 has 10g 4-ad and 5g 1-test... T1-pro has 10g 1-test and 5g 4-ad... Don't get them confused... Talk to ya..

 

[syko]

the other board said that .....

Nordione is not a good ph at all but big cats article said that it could help with a bulking cycle -good for me- by increasing wter retention. also they said that t converts to estrogen too easily but with my end cycle therapy i shoud be fine with that correct?

peace.

 

[Lifeguard]

Re: the other board said that .....

Originally posted by syko
also they said that t converts to estrogen too easily but with my end cycle therapy i shoud be fine with that correct?

peace.

since it is a Nor product it converts into progesterone, not estrogen, and there is enough 4-AD in the T-1 to give you the water retention you desire.  If I had the choice between nordione and 1,4-dione I would choose 1,4-dione hands down.  and yes proper post cycle therapy will help immensley. 300-400mg of 6-OXO/night will do.

 

PS. "the other board" is good, but I would say that "we are better" but that would be arrogant .

 

LG.

 

[Lifeguard]

Re: OOOOps

Originally posted by syko
Post i am thinking of running 6oxo, zma, and FUZU. but i need counseling on when to start each of them. So assistance would be great thankyou.

paece.

for Post cycle, 6-OXO and Fuzu will be plenty, for the OXO get 3-4 capsules (300-400mg) per night, and of the Fuzu go for about 5-6 capsules per day, spread throughout the day. 

*WARNING* Taking Fuzu with a high-protein meal might give you a bad stomach ache, so watch out.

Start each of them the day after you stop using the T-1 and 1,4-dione (or nordione).

 

LG.

 

[msclbldrguy]

Re: Re: OOOOps

for Post cycle, 6-OXO and Fuzu will be plenty, for the OXO get 3-4 capsules (300-400mg) per night, and of the Fuzu go for about 5-6 capsules per day, spread throughout the day. 

*WARNING* Taking Fuzu with a high-protein meal might give you a bad stomach ache, so watch out.

Start each of them the day after you stop using the T-1 and 1,4-dione (or nordione).

 

LG.

syko...

this is great advice..i did a similar 1-test post cycle stack (zma, 6-oxo) and it made all the difference...my first cycle about a year ago I didnt do any post cycle therapy and paid the price with depression especially...really stank. I didnt experience any of that with the 6oxo, zma stack and my lifts actually improved too...good luck.

 

[syko]

Howmuch

1,4 should i run everyday?

or nordiol?

any other effective oral to go along with my t1 cycle?

peace.

 

[Supa Freek 420]

Run nor w/t1 and watch out for some major deca di(k. Both are known to suppress libido, but together? Wathc out now! Run it with the 1,4.

 

[Supa Freek 420]

Re: Re: the other board said that .....

PS. "the other board" is good, but I would say that "we are better" but that would be arrogant .

LG.

It would be arrogant only if it were not true bro. Just cuz I post there more don't mean that I don't know what's up! I read here more than I post.

 

[wojo]

nevr had probs with fuzu and high protein but sleeping was tough...damn rough nights if u catch my drift

 

[Lifeguard]

Re: Howmuch

Originally posted by syko
1,4 should i run everyday?

or nordiol?

any other effective oral to go along with my t1 cycle?

peace.

Go for the 1,4....and run it about 400-600mg/day...

you said norDIONE before...did you get some norDIOL or something?? I am just a bit bewildered

 

LG.

 

[syko]

yeah i know

I did say dione but i will have a little bit more money than i thought i would have previously so i said diol also.

Just to make sure the DIONE will convert to progesterone not estrogen correct?

and 6oxo and trib/fuzu will be enough post? zma is not needed?

thanks sorry to be redundant just making sure one more time

thanks peace.

 

[Lifeguard]

Re: yeah i know

Originally posted by syko
I did say dione but i will have a little bit more money than i thought i would have previously so i said diol also.

Just to make sure the DIONE will convert to progesterone not estrogen correct?

and 6oxo and trib/fuzu will be enough post? zma is not needed?

thanks sorry to be redundant just making sure one more time

thanks peace.

nordione AND nordiol will both convert into progesterone...6-OXO will not fight this.  Thats why I personally recommend 1,4-andro because it has a slight conversion to estrogen and 6-OXO will combat this.

6-OXO and Fuzu will be fine.

 

LG.

 

[syko]

progesterone sides...

Are bloating and limp dick? correct? I could care less about the blaoting and my gf wont mind some time off the dick. those are the two magor sides?

thanks peace.

 

[Lifeguard]

Re: progesterone sides...

Originally posted by syko
Are bloating and limp dick? correct? I could care less about the blaoting and my gf wont mind some time off the dick. those are the two magor sides?

thanks peace.

yeah that is right...but remember, 1-Test shuts you down sex-drive wise also, so you will be LIMP for a while...so be careful...

 

LG.