on tren help

[wedlund6]

i am running a 19-nor cycle.
black china trenv-700 35 mg
ams dienedrole 50mg
i am running 2 different kinds so i have more options on dose.
first 2 days 50mg (1 cap ams)
5 days 85mg (1 trenv in morning i ams preworkout)
saturday i went to 105mg (3 caps trenv 1 morning 1preworkout 1 with dinner)
all with meals
A I cycle support
duel tabs vit b vit d
white flood preworkout
somnidren-gh before bed
when i take the trenv i feel wasted (dizzy light headed) i feel i can not even drive.like i am going to pass out.strength is up and workouts are fine.
2 day i droped back to 100mg (2 doses of ams) and i feel fine.i do not think droping 5mg is going to matter much.i just do not understand the wasted feeling on the trenv any ideas.i forgot to bring the lot # to work with me.

 

[wedlund6]

also wasted feeling lasts about 3 hours.when i was on 85mg taking it in the morning i blew it off as being tired. i get up at 4:30 am.
also i have done many cycles (s.d. hdrol epi 1 andro) this is my first tren cycle

 

[jp17815]

That might be a temp feeling.
I ran Tren over the summer and when I first started I tried to jump up to 120mgs a day right out of the gate.

I ended up with really big mood swings and bad anxy.
So I started at 40 mg for the 1st week and worked up to 120mgs.

felt fine after working my way up.

Another thing I know 1st hand is that AMS is great!!
But I do not know that much about black china tren.
I had great gains with the 19 nor tren alone at 120mg a week.
Not sure if running both is a good idea IMO.

It could also be that your body does not like the blend that black china uses.
Are you talking about the 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one Blend??

I would run the AMS Tren and drop the other.

JP.

 

[wedlund6]

Are you talking about the 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one Blend??

I would run the AMS Tren and drop the other.

JP.

i think its 19-norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione
i am going to stick with the ams,but i have 5 bottles of the trenv-700.

 

[silverSurfer]

Is your blood pressure ok?

 

[wedlund6]

not sure.i have only been taking the ams for the last 3 days and every thing is going fine.

 

[wedlund6]

more i think about it the more i think bp i am going to get it checked today thanks

 

[wedlund6]

i took 50mg at 4:30 am
50 mg at 11:00 am
35mg at 3;00 pm
at 3:30 bp was 157/81
2 mile run
30 min. after run bp 128/73
ate clean all day (eggs tuna spinage banana apple)
is this too hi should i stop my cycle?
i know its hi but hi for taking tren all day and working

 

[Liftingstud]

It's your bp man!!! Gezzz 157/81!!!! Not good at all!!! Did u preload ur cycle support? 135mg of tren is a hefty dose 90mg works great and would go past 120mg cause sides get nasty at that point as u can see. Also why are u using a preworkout like white flood with tren??? It's def not needed one bit! If ur not ready to life on tren and can't get pumps something is wrong. Def drop that and drop down ur dosage.

 

[wedlund6]

yes i preloaded ai cycle support 1 week
i think i am going to stop my cycle for now.see whats going on with my bp.(see if it goes back to normal)
i did not think 135mg is that hi at 265 ibs

 

[Liftingstud]

Just because u weight more often doesn't equate to needing more. Obviously for body it's too much or tren doesn't work well with u.

 

[suncloud]

good lord that's high blood pressure. are you sure you loaded your cycle support 2 weeks out, or did you load it a week ago?

celery seed extract will help lower it a bit more (and its nice and cheap), but 150+ is way too high for blood pressure. you may need to double dose the CS, or also add in some polisconal (20mg caps) which are also inexpensive.

 

[silverSurfer]

Get some celery seed extract asap. This is what I've used before with good results: http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/natural-factors/celery-seed-extract-60-caps.html

NP is out of stock, go find it elsewhere quick.

 

[wedlund6]

i ran 100 mg ams yesterday checked my bp 4 time the highest was 133/71 the only time my bp shoots up is when i take the trenv-700
i will check out the celery seed extract thanks