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  1. That is my point. There is no reason for you to go over 1.5 at all. Especially if it is all coming from good sources. Lean beef,chicken,eggs, milk protein, whey protein. ETC. I have taken this compound and the extremem protein is not needed for great gains. Especially on 20mg a day.


  2. Originally posted by sifu
    That is my point. There is no reason for you to go over 1.5 at all. Especially if it is all coming from good sources. Lean beef,chicken,eggs, milk protein, whey protein. ETC. I have taken this compound and the extremem protein is not needed for great gains. Especially on 20mg a day.
    before all of the hype of M1T and other such compounds came around I had always gone by the general rule of thumb of 1.5g-2g of protien per pound of body weight if I wanted to see solid gains out of my cycles. I think we're splitting hairs here people. doesn't matter! at 1.5g you'll probably see nice results "while on 20mg M1T", at 2g you'll probably see better.
    so 2gcorey what did you decide on relating to increasing intake of M1T?
    and how's that damn lethargy treating you today?
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  3. I would like to know on the lethargy too. It doesn't seem to give me any.

  4. Originally posted by sifu
    I would like to know on the lethargy too. It doesn't seem to give me any.
    don't know if you mentioned it before, but have you ever had any experience with T1-Pro? if so did you experience lethargy from that? reason I'm asking is because it hit me pretty hard while on my cycle and i had to resort to script strength speed "phentermine" to stay awake. still felt some lethargy though

  5. i have bad lethargy with m1t, but oh well...i can deal with it
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  6. See I guess I'm lucky, but with a new baby in the house I have lethargy all day everyday so I don't notice a difference. Libido has been up for me though. I guess I'm lucky.

  7. libido has been up for you cause you were probably deprived while she was pregnant and just happy the baby popped out...

  8. Protein isn't everything guys. I have a buddy with AWESOME genetics, and looks shredded year round. He's 5 foot 7, 170lbs and around 7.5-8% bf. Very vascular too.

    But he only eats about 2-3 meals a day, and it's usually just garbage. I would say he gets less than 60g a day of protein, but looks better than 100% of the people at his gym.



    Protein is definitely important, but I wouldn't get totally caught up in it.

    As a general rule, I just stick to around 30g of protein per meal while natural and 50g of protein per meal while on androgens.

  9. Geez bros...enough with the banter about credential this and nutrition science that. The facts are that everyone is different and the guidelines for nutrition do not apply to everyone. Let's say there are 2 men and they are both at 220 pounds. Now, one is an ecto and the other an endo. Although they are the same body weight their maintenance values for EVERYTHING will most certainly be vastly different.

    The reason for upping cals and protein while on cycle is to provide optimum conditions for growth. Will you grow if you don't get 1.5-2 g protein per pound LBM? Some will and others won't however if your cals are below maintenance then mass gain is not possible.

    Chemo

  10. THANKS for saving my thread chemo! it was taken over with cyber ego's...

    anyway i'm now on 30mg's, will keep posting how i'm doing. so far no sides yet, but much more noticeable definition and pumps are harder and larger. had to stop on my last few sets. i broke my workouts into two sections today because half way through i was so pumped i was having a hard time going on, so i stopped for 30 min let the pump go down then finished. its nice so far

  11. Many of Berardi's articles are nothing but marketing towards Biotests Surge. He is mistaken on many things.
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  12. Originally posted by 2gcorey


    anyway i'm now on 30mg's
    Why? Why do people keep insisting more is better? I tried 30mg because I didn't think it was that potent. I found out the hard way. Your playing with your health in the wrong way. Truthfully I didn't see a difference between 30mg and 10mg, just more sides. Its the same with tren. There is no reason to go above 75-100mg/day.
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  13. i've experienced no sides like people are on 20mg. doesn't everyone respond to things differently? i'm not saying i'm going to go until I get sides, but if i don't get them on 30mg and notice better gains then why not? i am taking everything i can to play it safe. i've only got 4 days left till i'm done with this cycle also, so its not like i'm testing this for a long time...trying to do it safely

  14. Just because you don't feel it doesn't mean damage isn't occuring. Your live enzymes can rise to enormous levels and you will never feel it. Milk Thistle and Hawthorne berry do NOT prevent damage, they help repair it. Your not even considering the increased BP and strain on your heart with heavy doses of androgens. Basing your cycle on what you "feel" is not wise at all. This substance has caused more sides and different reactions to people than anything I can remember. More is definetly NOT better. Your levels are high enough already with numerous days of use so increasing it in the last final days will not cause an increase in gains and will only cause more suppression and more side effects in the long run. It doesn't make sense and is pointless.
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  15. ok, i'll return to 20mg the last few days and take yoru word for it. i haven't been doing this long enough to know the details of how it works. i was just going more off feel. thx for the good reply though and explanation. i thought those substances kept damaging from occuring. thx again...

    20mg corey

  16. If it was fine I would be the first to tell you, but from what I've done (30mg for almost 2 weeks) the side effect didn't even start to the end of the second week and they still were present after the 3rd week when I decided to stop. This substance really surprised me. I've done almost everything you can think of (except d-rol) and the effects and potency just blew me away. With this one, its definetly better to be safe than sorry. Its almost the exact same thing as tren in terms of dosages. I've done tren at 125mg per day and 75mg per day and saw zero difference. THe same applies to M1T. More is DEFINETLY not better in this case.
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  17. Bobo thanks for shedding some more light on M1T. Glad to hear your pov man. I respect what you are saying and thanks for the info. Spread the knowledge.

  18. thanks again bobo. i haven't done anything except 1ad and t1pro so i'll definately take your word for it.

  19. Originally posted by Bobo


    Many of Berardi's articles are nothing but marketing towards Biotests Surge. He is mistaken on many things.
    Agreed. However, Bernardi's meal plans and timing are excellent, but those numbers are way off the mark.

  20. Originally posted by Bobo
    Why? Why do people keep insisting more is better? I tried 30mg because I didn't think it was that potent. I found out the hard way. Your playing with your health in the wrong way. Truthfully I didn't see a difference between 30mg and 10mg, just more sides. Its the same with tren. There is no reason to go above 75-100mg/day.
    Amen...

    Originally posted by Bobo
    Just because you don't feel it doesn't mean damage isn't occuring. Your live enzymes can rise to enormous levels and you will never feel it. Milk Thistle and Hawthorne berry do NOT prevent damage, they help repair it. Your not even considering the increased BP and strain on your heart with heavy doses of androgens. Basing your cycle on what you "feel" is not wise at all. This substance has caused more sides and different reactions to people than anything I can remember. More is definetly NOT better. Your levels are high enough already with numerous days of use so increasing it in the last final days will not cause an increase in gains and will only cause more suppression and more side effects in the long run. It doesn't make sense and is pointless.
    Preach on brother!

    Originally posted by Bobo
    If it was fine I would be the first to tell you, but from what I've done (30mg for almost 2 weeks) the side effect didn't even start to the end of the second week and they still were present after the 3rd week when I decided to stop. This substance really surprised me. I've done almost everything you can think of (except d-rol) and the effects and potency just blew me away. With this one, its definetly better to be safe than sorry. Its almost the exact same thing as tren in terms of dosages. I've done tren at 125mg per day and 75mg per day and saw zero difference. THe same applies to M1T. More is DEFINETLY not better in this case.
    Take us to church brother Bobo!! Has everyone heard and understand the sermon?? More is NOT better.

    Chemo

  21. Originally posted by 2gcorey
    ok, i'll return to 20mg the last few days and take yoru word for it. i haven't been doing this long enough to know the details of how it works. i was just going more off feel. thx for the good reply though and explanation. i thought those substances kept damaging from occuring. thx again...

    20mg corey
    glad to see that someone got too you on this issue. i guess it takes someone like the almighty omnipitant bobo to get people to open their eyes to the harsh reality and seriousness of these chems. don't know you personally, but i still would hate for something to happen to you or anyone on this board because of ignorance, pride or msinformation.
    let's see some after cycle pics if you get the chance bro.

  22. great advice bobo,....glad you chose to follow his advice.

  23. i do want after cycle pics, i'm now the largest guy on campus cause of m1t. not sure of my bodyfat but i've almost got a nice 6 pack and defined pretty well, up to 194lbs now at 5'10" w/ 30" waist

  24. So you're up 3lbs in 10 days? or so. what's your dosage right now?

  25. i'm done now

  26. I have never tried M1T, but have kept up w/ the M1T logs on various boards(most of the dosages was 20mgs/day). I keep hearing that the gains come too fast, and the pumps are so unreal that it is hard to lift. Also, there are the side effects of low back pain, cramps, lethargy etc. and most people have to discontinue after 2 weeks.

    It seems obvious to me that 20mgs/day is too much for the average person. Try 10mgs/day.

    Yeah, I know CHEMO and bobo said the same, but anyway I was just trying to point out the obvious.
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