methyl 1test 20mg

[smike319]

also have seen misc. threads discussing that anything over 20mg might be overkill(waste of money). but if you think it might benefit you and your willing to test it, who am I to stop you
Good Luck

[2gcorey]

400g or protein? you're full of it, thats more than 2g per lb for me. where do you get these "facts" w/o taking into account a persons weight? you can't make a general st atement like that w/o many other factors. i've read enough to know that much.

[sifu]

Klaus you are full of crap when you say the grams for carbs
protein and fats. What about their metabolism and other determining factors. You are speaking out of your pie hole on that one.

[sifu]

Scientific research? What the crap dude. I have a PHD in physical therapy and you are telling me about research. Guidelines such as that for base calories and carbs,etc are pointlesss, and they do definately not work for everyone. Creatine doesn't work for everyone, so obviously standard protocol for nutrition doesn't work for everyone.

If I have a 50 year old woman with a MCL tear a 20 year old with the same injury and a 16 year old male with the same, do you think that I would treat them all in the same manner? Of course not so when you go into nutrition macronutrient breakdowns there are many determining factors. Age, sex, type of activity, do I need to go on.

No one blowed a gasket. I just called you on the irrelevant crap you were telling him. And as for research my bachelors is in Exercise science, plus five years of post grad work for my PHD, so watch who you think you are telling about research.

[2gcorey]

i didn't buy it sifu, i do wish some of the mods or someone else on here would explain why i need so much more food while on methyl 1t. does it raise my metabolism? i don't expand anymore energy, in fact less since i take naps! why another g per lb then most normally recommend? its not adding up to me...waiting for bobo or someone to come in here and clear this up. wherever that punk is

[sifu]

Well before I got the flu, I was taking 20mg a day for five days. I was taking in exactly 1gram per pound of bodyweight. Hardly very many carbs and moderate fat. For me I can gain on 1300 cals a day. And I am 200 pounds, that was my point about nutrition guidelines. I put on 5 pounds in five days and I was definately tighter. I will start back on it on sunday or monday, whenever I get rid of this sickness.

[2gcorey]

damnit, don't wreck my thread! just post info pls, i don't give a crap about personal credentials.

[sifu]

Thesis. Whatever. My wife is a High school english teacher. So who do you think proof read all of my papers? Are you really that ignorant? A PHD in Physical therapy depending on the school is 50% classroom, and 50% applications of theory. What the hell would you like. Where I work? Dyess AFB. Where I went to school? Pacific University in Forest Grove, Oregon. Nutrition asswipe, well since I won the middleweight class in the Oregon State Naturals, in 1997 I think I know what is needed for results.

As far as credentials being specific to the job at hand, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[sifu]

Like I said prove to me on a actual human study, that 400 grams of protein and carbs is universal in applying it to all subjects. Whether they are different body types, ages, or levels of fitness.

[2gcorey]

at 190lbs why would i need 2g per lb anyway, thats all i want ot know. i've never heard that in bodybuilding. only 1-1.5g per lb

[sifu]

That is my point. There is no reason for you to go over 1.5 at all. Especially if it is all coming from good sources. Lean beef,chicken,eggs, milk protein, whey protein. ETC. I have taken this compound and the extremem protein is not needed for great gains. Especially on 20mg a day.

[smike319]

Originally posted by sifu
That is my point. There is no reason for you to go over 1.5 at all. Especially if it is all coming from good sources. Lean beef,chicken,eggs, milk protein, whey protein. ETC. I have taken this compound and the extremem protein is not needed for great gains. Especially on 20mg a day.

before all of the hype of M1T and other such compounds came around I had always gone by the general rule of thumb of 1.5g-2g of protien per pound of body weight if I wanted to see solid gains out of my cycles. I think we're splitting hairs here people. doesn't matter! at 1.5g you'll probably see nice results "while on 20mg M1T", at 2g you'll probably see better.
so 2gcorey what did you decide on relating to increasing intake of M1T?
and how's that damn lethargy treating you today?

[sifu]

I would like to know on the lethargy too. It doesn't seem to give me any.

[smike319]

Originally posted by sifu
I would like to know on the lethargy too. It doesn't seem to give me any.

don't know if you mentioned it before, but have you ever had any experience with T1-Pro? if so did you experience lethargy from that? reason I'm asking is because it hit me pretty hard while on my cycle and i had to resort to script strength speed "phentermine" to stay awake. still felt some lethargy though

[2gcorey]

i have bad lethargy with m1t, but oh well...i can deal with it

[sifu]

See I guess I'm lucky, but with a new baby in the house I have lethargy all day everyday so I don't notice a difference. Libido has been up for me though. I guess I'm lucky.

[2gcorey]

libido has been up for you cause you were probably deprived while she was pregnant and just happy the baby popped out...

[TheTom]

Protein isn't everything guys. I have a buddy with AWESOME genetics, and looks shredded year round. He's 5 foot 7, 170lbs and around 7.5-8% bf. Very vascular too.

But he only eats about 2-3 meals a day, and it's usually just garbage. I would say he gets less than 60g a day of protein, but looks better than 100% of the people at his gym.



Protein is definitely important, but I wouldn't get totally caught up in it.

As a general rule, I just stick to around 30g of protein per meal while natural and 50g of protein per meal while on androgens.

[Chemo]

Geez bros...enough with the banter about credential this and nutrition science that. The facts are that everyone is different and the guidelines for nutrition do not apply to everyone. Let's say there are 2 men and they are both at 220 pounds. Now, one is an ecto and the other an endo. Although they are the same body weight their maintenance values for EVERYTHING will most certainly be vastly different.

The reason for upping cals and protein while on cycle is to provide optimum conditions for growth. Will you grow if you don't get 1.5-2 g protein per pound LBM? Some will and others won't however if your cals are below maintenance then mass gain is not possible.

Chemo

[2gcorey]

THANKS for saving my thread chemo! it was taken over with cyber ego's...

anyway i'm now on 30mg's, will keep posting how i'm doing. so far no sides yet, but much more noticeable definition and pumps are harder and larger. had to stop on my last few sets. i broke my workouts into two sections today because half way through i was so pumped i was having a hard time going on, so i stopped for 30 min let the pump go down then finished. its nice so far